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2011-12-07 16:35:15
#1
E85 Conversion?
I am considering doing a E85 conversion for my car when I install the new turbo stuff. It seems as if people are making more power on E85 from what I am reading.
Other than fuel lines do we know what's involved?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.
2011-12-07 17:38:42
#2
You'll need injectors about twice the size of what you have already with the power you are making, and also a dual pump system that can provide enough flow. Since most cars are NA that run E85, their pumps can handle it, but with turboing and E85, the engine consumes more fuel respectively. You'll need to replace all the hoses from inside the tank, outside the tank, and also utilize a different fuel filter. If you want a shop that knows how to tune with E85 and where you can purchase all the stuff, check out Secret Services Auto off 59 South in Houston. They've done a lot of tuning with E85 converted systems, and they know their stuff. From E85 alone, you will pick up at least 30-50 HP at same boost level usually, and also the EGTs will be lower and safer, its just a trade off really, safer turbo setup, but more fuel needed so every tank doesn't last as long, but if its about power who cares. 713-SSA-RACE

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2011-12-15 21:43:19
#3
I have collected some good information in regards to this and I will keep the thread updated with it as decisions are made.
2011-12-15 22:32:37
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Originally Posted by David
You'll need injectors about twice the size of what you have already with the power you are making, and also a dual pump system that can provide enough flow. Since most cars are NA that run E85, their pumps can handle it, but with turboing and E85, the engine consumes more fuel respectively. You'll need to replace all the hoses from inside the tank, outside the tank, and also utilize a different fuel filter. If you want a shop that knows how to tune with E85 and where you can purchase all the stuff, check out Secret Services Auto off 59 South in Houston. They've done a lot of tuning with E85 converted systems, and they know their stuff. From E85 alone, you will pick up at least 30-50 HP at same boost level usually, and also the EGTs will be lower and safer, its just a trade off really, safer turbo setup, but more fuel needed so every tank doesn't last as long, but if its about power who cares. 713-SSA-RACE

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a pump and inj upgrade isnt always neccessary. depends what your currently using.

the rest of the information your completely wrong about.

i ran e85, my boy runs it and alot of my friends. theres no need to change anything that you mentioned.

stratton.
2011-12-15 22:53:24
#5
He can change the lines if he needs more flow but the stock line can handle it.
2011-12-15 22:55:42
#6
I have seen guys run e85 on 370cc injectors with a Walboro and stock lines.

It all depends on what your demands are out of the fuel system just like any other fuel systems.
2011-12-16 02:10:00
#7
Well, right now I have Walbro 255, 72 lb MSD injectors and Cobra MAF.
2011-12-16 02:49:35
#8
The problem is longevity of the hoses that are used to seeing petroleum running through them, instead of Ethanol. But ya... everyone says it'll work, but for how long do these cars run. All I'm saying is that, our old cars need the new rubber fuel hoses. I did not mean run larger diameter hardlines and a huge fuel pump. Plus the filter replacement I mentioned is cause the fuel will actually start to clean the tank within 500 miles and all the gunk will cause the filter to be clogged up... oh just like all the nissan injectors failing now due to the ETHANOL content in the fuel... gasp! Really, yes it'll work, but for how long until the rubber fails. I for one don't want a leaky cracked hose from my gas tank to my hard lines... which no one really replaces. So yes, I stand by my list of items to replace when doing a conversion. In fact check out the link I have here.

Performance Fuel Hoses - Hot Rod Magazine
2011-12-16 03:12:16
#9
theres alot of debbie downers about it and its pretty simple. you need about 25-30 percent more fuel. so you need to just do a little math and see what you need. i run braided hoses and a fuel cell and some bosch 1680 cc injectors. before i had delphi 1000cc injectors bosch 044 and 6 an line. ive had it for a year and a half and its been great and ill never go back. especially since i plan on 10's this year and a good 140mph trap on the new snail if you wanna know more just hmu
2011-12-16 03:29:52
#10
Originally Posted by David
The problem is longevity of the hoses that are used to seeing petroleum running through them, instead of Ethanol. But ya... everyone says it'll work, but for how long do these cars run. All I'm saying is that, our old cars need the new rubber fuel hoses. I did not mean run larger diameter hardlines and a huge fuel pump. Plus the filter replacement I mentioned is cause the fuel will actually start to clean the tank within 500 miles and all the gunk will cause the filter to be clogged up... oh just like all the nissan injectors failing now due to the ETHANOL content in the fuel... gasp! Really, yes it'll work, but for how long until the rubber fails. I for one don't want a leaky cracked hose from my gas tank to my hard lines... which no one really replaces. So yes, I stand by my list of items to replace when doing a conversion. In fact check out the link I have here.

Performance Fuel Hoses - Hot Rod Magazine


your wrong. the lines are 100% fine. no need to change anything other then upgrading inj and pump if its needed.

do more research.

stratton.
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