Thread: Act XT clutch kit issues Disengaging!!

Here is a email thread frim the guy i bought the set from. Its a new disk with a used pressure plate.

Hey wasup man. So i installed the clutch kit. Im having issues disengaging the clutch or going into gear. I tred the pipe trick to no avail. Removed the tranny and the TOB is on the clips properly. The clutch fins are awfly flat after install. Any ideas?Image: http://img.tapatalk.com/a6cd88c5-e2d4-e637.jpg
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Is the clutch disc with the springs facing the pressure plate? The only other thing is the clutch cable not being tight enough. I have miko's tranny bracket so I have a extra 1/2" of adjustment. make sue the the clutch cable is adjusted so the tob is almost against the pressure plate when the clutch is all the way out. this may require you to modify the clutch cable to get extra adjustment.
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Ok so i tried the pipe trick as explained above. I had all the slack taken out before i removed the tranny. Today i removed the clutch and there were circle marks from the fins touching the clutch. The PP may not be good.
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if the pp was bad all of the fingers would not have line up flush and you would be able to see the damage to the springs. With the tranny on the car you should have been able to pull the clutch arm until the tob touches the pp then back it of 2mm. the clutch cable should be able to adjust that far as well.[/QUOTE

Here is a thread i found http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/drivetrain-tech/253294-clutch-disc-springs-touching-pressure-plate-fingers.html


This is the same issue I'm having. The fingers have engraved the clutch disk. And not disengaging the clutch.
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it also states the main reason why this happens is due to a mis adjusted clutch linkage. I will take pics of the modified clutch cable I used to get the extra travel required to get the clutch to work right. Using the bracket andres miko makes eliminates the need to ever modify the clutch cable.

As you can see I shortened the cable
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and added washers to increase adjustment
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as you can see the fingers on my cm setup and perfectly flat with the pressure plate torqued in the correct sequence
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did you get the flywheel surfaced before installing the clutch.
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Thank you for the pics.
1: i have had the flywheel resurfaced and is in spec
2: i have used tge 3/4 reducer mod
And the TOB now fully presses in,
However, the clutch hub is preventing the fingers from moving any further. There is 1/4 of finger space bwtween the clutch when fully bolted.
3: i have adjusted the clutch cable to where the cable has 1 inch of play from touching the TOB.


IM STUMPED! lol
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also make sure the clutch cable bracket on the firewall is not cracked. It will cause the whole setup to flex if its broken.
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Ok. So the both firewall and tranny brackets are sound.

The cable may be the culprit. The short cable may work.

My main question is if i had too much tension on the cable and it was fully pressed, why would it not disengage at all?

Here is a pic for reference. The whole reason i added more tension is because it would not disengage or go into gear.

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Can you see where the finger were fully pressed? It made a circle mark on the middle by the spindle spline.
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that looks like the back side of the clutch disc( the side that faces the flywheel. The raised center should face the pp. No disengaugement is a clutch cable length issue. I know when I snapped a cable and replaced it I had to modify the new cable to get it to disengauge. I have also had to do this on a clutch masters setup before as well. This is why I now have dre's bracket with a full extra 1" of adjustment.

The clutch will not disengage. Even with the fingers riding in the clutch center(bottomed out) not suppose to happen right? No start in gear (car moves forward) cant put into gear with car on.

Please help! The tranny has been in and out 3 times this past week.

Try using a stock pressure plate.

I will try a stock pressure plate, and share results.

when you do take down the tranny... inspect the clutch disc springs for play. it will have some but if it's excessive it will def cause this.

Tranny is down. The shim was in place. Both dowel pins are in. The act clutch is new. But the act XT was used.

So try a stock PP. Also make sure the TOB moves freely on the shaft on the tranny out the car.

This may seem odd, but MAKE SURE that the clutch cable is being held tight by it's holder by the firewall. The xt pp is so stiff that it will pull the cable out, makeing it so that the cable just moves around and the pp won't disengage. Mine did that when I first put it in, and it took some time to figure out wtf was going on, now I have a circle clamp holding it in place.

So the TOB is pressing the pressure plate fins, but was not disengaging or letting the car in gear. I adjusted the cable over and over to no avail. I then pulled the tranny and saw that the PP fingers were riding the clutch when i pushed the pedal. Mind you the clutch still wont disengage.

Maybe i have the wrong clutch or pressure plate?

If your pressure plate fingers are contacting the clutch then something is wrong or you have your clutch cable way too tight allowing that much movement. Also if its to the point where the fingers are touching the clutch disk thats why you cant get the car in gear while on and cant start the car in gear without it moving.

Have you tried just pushing in the clutch slightly maybe like half way to the floor and put the car in gear. If it still does not want to work then the Pressure plate itself might be bad. Thats all there is to it. Its a pretty simple thing.

If the half way to the floor works then you need to loosen your clutch cable not tighten it.