Thread: Stock vs Stock

Just for couriosity, who you think will be faster? A 99' SE-L auto or a 02' Infiniti G20 auto?

neither lol

se-l. no leather so it should be lighter

And no abs, plus g20 has independent rear suspension while the sentra has a lighter rear beam

Both have that rear beam!

I thought it was independent rear, or is that just on the p10?

^i was going to say. just the p10, b13s. everything else is beam

curb weight of a p11 auto should be about 3k (2950 lbs)
curb weight of a b14 se-l 2700

both are lowports, the b14 should rev higher. the b14 will have less rotational mass due to have 15s and the g20 stock on 16s. idk how the 'additional tq' will help the p11 being a roller rocker lowport.

Se-l is quicker.

Faster in a straight line or on the twistys? The SE-L will pull in a straight line, the P10 might be quicker if there are curves involved.

Time to clear some information up.

SE-L Curb weight: 2617 lbs.
P11 Curb weight: 2923 lbs.

P11's have a rear beam, but the toe is only .10" off instead of B14's .25" (or something that close, my rulers are all standard and I hate fractions).

1999-2001 P11's have 15" rims, 2002 has 16" rims.

P11 has huge front brakes, which are much heavier then stock B14's, rear's are also bigger. All of this = additional rotational mass.

1999 P11 has a Low port and a B14 transmission.
2000-2002 has a Roller rocker with a P11 transmission with smaller first and second gear, my second gear only goes up to 55mph! Part of the problem is the lower redline 6,700 vs 7,100rpm.

Now 00-02 have a 4cw crank coupled with short first and second gears, the P11 revs much faster then my B14 ever has, even with a 10lb flywheel.


Now with all of that in mind, the P11 RR auto transmission is dog slow. 0-60 is something close to 10 seconds. While the 5speed is 8.6 seconds. If you look at the 99 auto P11, it was around 11 seconds 0-60. Mainly because of longer gears and slower reving motor.

Also another thing I noticed is roller rockers have a lot more low end torque and power but fall flat on their face at 5k rpm. An intake helped resolve this issue!

Now P11 does have a much better suspension setup, but it also has a lot of body roll (due to weight), especially with a older shocks. So I would say my SE-L would take the P11 even on twisties. Once I get a stiffer/newer suspension I might have a different opinion.