Hmm, I guess nobody runs these on a VE. Understand it's not needed but was hoping someone would post up a review of the ATI crank on their VE...
I think ur right and the proof is in the pudding, VE crank pulley is sufficient. Are you running a new VE pulley or your old one? Also, what other pulleys are you using on your build? Probably the GSpec Water Pump Pulley? Do you see any alternator issues whe running up to 9000+ RPM?
These ATI and Fluidamper pulleys are popular in the Honda world for the reasons you mentioned. Also, very popular in the RB world as the older RB series engines don't like revving above 7500 RPM because of crank and oil pump issues. Not much history on the VE's I guess.
Agreed! If you've dumped thousands of dollars into your build then what's a few hundred more. The extra peace of mind that a dampened crank pulley brings might be worth two days wages.
The Super dampers are definitely over-priced though. I do not think the technology dictates a price that high but what do I know. ATI is a big brand name!
Maybe I'll be a $500 guinea pig......
Originally Posted by ashtonsser
I plan to rev my build to 10k, I was reving my DE to 9 on occasion with an aluminum pulley and had no issues at all. On this build im using a stock VE pulley just for the extra harmonics dampening.
I know the B series guys usually always chose to run an ATI or Fluidamper pulley because they have issues shattering oil pump gears. However I will say this. I believe and from what Ive read it has to do with alignment of the oil pump. If you have it even slightly off center it can cause issues with the pump shattering. I believe the honda oil pumps dont have any alignment dowel pins like our pumps do as well. So that could be the issues as im sure there is some movement that can happen and off centering can occur when installing the pump.
I havent seen any issues with ours with people breaking oil pumps. I mean cory was reving his all the way to right at 10k with his 2.3 and i believe 9500 with the 2.4 stroker. I dont know what pulley he was using though.
I think ill be fine with the stock VE pulley. I definitely dont want to use the aluminum pulley at that rpm though.
I plan to rev my build to 10k, I was reving my DE to 9 on occasion with an aluminum pulley and had no issues at all. On this build im using a stock VE pulley just for the extra harmonics dampening.
I know the B series guys usually always chose to run an ATI or Fluidamper pulley because they have issues shattering oil pump gears. However I will say this. I believe and from what Ive read it has to do with alignment of the oil pump. If you have it even slightly off center it can cause issues with the pump shattering. I believe the honda oil pumps dont have any alignment dowel pins like our pumps do as well. So that could be the issues as im sure there is some movement that can happen and off centering can occur when installing the pump.
I havent seen any issues with ours with people breaking oil pumps. I mean cory was reving his all the way to right at 10k with his 2.3 and i believe 9500 with the 2.4 stroker. I dont know what pulley he was using though.
I think ill be fine with the stock VE pulley. I definitely dont want to use the aluminum pulley at that rpm though.
I think ur right and the proof is in the pudding, VE crank pulley is sufficient. Are you running a new VE pulley or your old one? Also, what other pulleys are you using on your build? Probably the GSpec Water Pump Pulley? Do you see any alternator issues whe running up to 9000+ RPM?
These ATI and Fluidamper pulleys are popular in the Honda world for the reasons you mentioned. Also, very popular in the RB world as the older RB series engines don't like revving above 7500 RPM because of crank and oil pump issues. Not much history on the VE's I guess.
Originally Posted by blairellis
Or, they say, "That guy was smart enough to spend a fraction of the $15k he spend prepping the race engine he built to protect it."
If I ever go with different pullies, I'll be using one of the ATIs.
Or, they say, "That guy was smart enough to spend a fraction of the $15k he spend prepping the race engine he built to protect it."
If I ever go with different pullies, I'll be using one of the ATIs.
Agreed! If you've dumped thousands of dollars into your build then what's a few hundred more. The extra peace of mind that a dampened crank pulley brings might be worth two days wages.
The Super dampers are definitely over-priced though. I do not think the technology dictates a price that high but what do I know. ATI is a big brand name!
Maybe I'll be a $500 guinea pig......