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2008-02-14 02:11:52
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Why Buy The Cosworth Headgasket?
as many of you can see, news of the new 90mm cosworth head gasket has been circulating its way through the forum. but why buy the cosworth gasket over another brand?

Eric Hsu, former owner of XS-Engineering and current engineer of Cosworth published this in his blog:

"We’ve been doing a lot of product testing at Cosworth recently which is a good thing. Real company = real products = real research & development = real engineering. No Ebay made in China sh*t here man. However, just because something is made in the USA by a reputable company, it doesn’t mean that it is a quality product. You find out all kinds of things in testing.

Cosworth has been coming out with some kick ass head gaskets lately. They provide the engine builder with Japanese multi layer stainless steel quality, but priced 1/2 way in between the JDM and USDM gaskets. As we develop more applications, we have more testing to do since we must validate our designs and sometimes also check a competitor’s product. To do this, we take some expensive ass pressure film and sandwich it in between the block and head gasket. Obviously, all sealing surfaces must be perfectly flat and free of imperfections. Then we torque the head on top of everything with the head bolt/stud of choice. The pressure film creates a color coded imprint that shows how well the clamping force is distributed. Obviously you want a high clamping force around the cylinders. Of course you can’t forget the water/oil jackets either. The higher the pressure, the brighter the imprint. We’ve found some very surprising results. A leading US multi-layer stainless steel gasket manufacturer actually manufactures some pretty weak gasket designs. In some instances they are worse than stock.

Here are some results from a popular Japanese 2.0L in-line 4 cylinder iron block/aluminum head factory turbocharged engine. No names, models, or manufacturers in this blog post. You figure out which engine. If you can’t, you’re probably either a dumb sh*t or a non-enthusiast in which case I’m not sure why you’re reading this. Ok, here’s a hint: it’s four wheel drive. No not the one with the flat engine.



This test was performed with 8740 ARP 11mm studs with torque at 90 ft./lbs.
LEFT: This US made multi-layer stainless gasket has a thin sealing line around the cylinder and distortion right around the head bolts which compromises the strength seal. You’ll also see the color is dull which means the clamping force is low. The funny part is that the primary seal (immediately around the piston) is very light whereas the secondary seal (around the primary) is darker and wider. They got it reversed.
CENTER: The OEM multi-layer stainless gasket. It only needs to seal 280hp so the engineers don’t seem too concerned with with a perfect band around each cylinder. However, you can notice that the clamping force is significantly higher than the Co…(oh **** sorry, no names, huh?) the gasket on the left.
RIGHT: The best of the bunch. The sealing area around the cylinders are round, consistent, wide, and the force is the highest. What does this mean to you? Proper cylinder sealing whether your engine is stock or you’re running 40psi boost on methanol with L19/H11/MP studs.

So next time you want to save a couple bucks and buy that cheaper gasket, don’t do it. You’ll be sorry you did. At the same time, there’s no need to break the bank for that over priced JDM gasket. Remember: JDM isn’t always the best choice. Have fun in boost (if you don’t have one of the gaskets on the left)." - Eric Hsu, 10/9/07

i hope this helps you understand why mike has been flooding the forum with news of this new development. also another reason why to buy the brand and not the "Ebay made in China sh*t".
2008-02-14 02:20:27
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good explanation of the differences between the 3
2008-02-14 02:54:27
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He's definately not ashamed of bashing Cometic.
2008-02-14 03:08:29
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Originally Posted by AaroNX
He's definately not ashamed of bashing Cometic.


why would you say that? he is merely showing physical evidence that the left-hand side company's head gasket is not as good as Cosworth's.

no where in his publication do i see cometic.
2008-02-14 03:17:17
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Originally Posted by sqd
why would you say that? he is merely showing physical evidence that the left-hand side company's head gasket is not as good as Cosworth's.

no where in his publication do i see cometic.


Besides where it's blurred over the gasket, and it's the only one that starts with "com, oh wait....no names"

lol

I obviously side with the Cosworth gasket anyway, as that's what I purchased. It's a real company that participates in real racing and allows those products and R&D to trickle down to the street based car level.
2008-02-14 03:21:08
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Originally Posted by veilside180sx
Besides where it's blurred over the gasket, and it's the only one that starts with "com, oh wait....no names"

lol

I obviously side with the Cosworth gasket anyway, as that's what I purchased. It's a real company that participates in real racing and allows those products and R&D to trickle down to the street based car level.


shhhhh.
2008-02-14 03:52:58
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DAMN!!! Thanks for the write-up. I definitely know who I'm buying HG's from now!
2008-02-14 22:05:50
#8
but can i use the cosy on stock bore and stock head bolts? i am in the process of rebuilding an engine...........full bolt on but pretty much bone stock inside save the 10:1 pistons. i do not want to spend the extra money on a differant gasket only to have to spend even more money getting differant head studs, drilling the block, tapping the block, honeing the cly out, having the have a TQ plate sent out to me. YADDA YADDA.
2008-02-15 00:35:13
#9
they make an 87mm gasket.
2008-02-15 00:48:19
#10
the seal looks so perfect it looks computer generated or something... thats nuts man...

sweet

so they make one for the the SR i assume??
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