I love my de, i have s4 cams, ssac header, stock exhaust and a aem short ram. my car made 152whp and 120ft lb torque with zero tune and super leannn. Now with the calumsult ecu i have and my nismo fpr i think its probably in the mid 160's, the ecu really smoothed everything out. My de has about 1200 miles on it and got it for $300 from a buddy of mine, fully rebuilt, new everything. I plan on eventually getting a Ve and then eventually boosting that. A fully bolt on de isn't the fastest thing on the road but its still fun to drive just out of the nostalgia.