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2008-01-15 22:46:36
#411
Originally Posted by nogo
Wow, what a crock of **** this has been. Anyone could have joined SERCA until about 3 years ago. You wanted SERCA to float you some money to hold a convention and you couldn't even bother to become a member?

And Brad, why should SERCA give any information out to nonmembers?

Never said holding a large Nissan event was easy, but it's not a calling card to hold a convention. Probably take about the same amount of work, just in different directions and areas.

So, Dre, you and others have partially succeeded in dividing the community with your plans. Feel better now? After everything that happened to the other forum, y'all just had to pull this crap... friggin shame on you.

It's apparent that this is a private vendetta and agenda by you against part of the community, something you've accused SERCA of doing to you. It's equally apparent that you have a GINORMOUS chip on your shoulder. Rare air is hard to breathe, up in that tower, but I'm sure y'all will be fine.

This whole thread has left me feeling ill, not just the content but towards others on both sides.


When we in FL approached SERCA back then for a convention, we were told we didn't have enough members in SERCA to be considered. When we enquired about joining SERCA and what benifit we would gain from paying our dues, we were basically left in the cold. The vast majority of events at the time (and probably still) were occuring in Cali (I've often found it ironic that the last two letters of SERCA are the abreviation CA - for Cali.) The concensus in our local (Tampa) club was why pay $30 a year and get a small fraction of it back to host events such as AutoX and track days? When we pointed this out to SERCA, we were told... oh well. It seemed like a pyramid scheme then and it still does. I guess if I lived in Cali or out West, I'd probably join as well. At least then you'd get a return on your dues and maybe have your costs offset by the small membership spread through out the rest of the country.

Now, to answer your question... why should they give information out to non-members? Why the heck not?!? They pretend to represent the community correct!? They're supposedly a community based organization of SE-R owners right? Why wouldn't they want to make all their actions public in the light of day? Why would they want to hide them? Again, who are they and why aren't they active on the forums? Why aren't they taking new members? Why aren't any of their actions public? Why does our national communty suck so much that we're fighting over this instead of working together to form a real SE-R Club of America here on the forum?

If SERCA is really dead, let's move on and replace them. If we want to keep having a convention (in FL or anywhere else), the need for an umbrella organization isn't going to go away.
2008-01-15 22:47:14
#412
Originally Posted by eric96ser
I was involved with SERCA when FL stated they wanted a convention. It was just after the Birmingham convention, so holding it in the same region 2 years in a row, didn't make sense. The arguement about not having it in FL because no one was a member, makes perfect sense. Why should a paying membership club, loan money to a group who didn't even want to be members? You know, you can't shop at Costco or Sam's Club without being a member, you should go protest outside their doors about how unfair that is. Since SERCA is all but dead, this isn't true anymore. What needs to happen is a group from FL needs to come up with a plan that includes a city, and track. Until this happens, it's just a group of people saying they want the convention in their backyard, without anyone stepping up and saying they will run it. In my eyes, the person, or people who are going to run the event, need to attend at least 1 convention. I had gone to 3 conventions before I headed up Birmingham, and I still forgot stuff. I had great help from people who had been to the same number of events, and that still happened. Saying you want to head up the event without even seeing it in person, is asking for trouble. You may have organized a huge meet with 1000 cars, but that is only 1 part of the whole weekend. Organizing it in a city that you don't live in, adds more trouble. Birmingham is 4 hours away from me, and I got very lucky to find 2 locals that helped out more than I could have asked for. I also made 3 trips, as did Thomas Reynolds and it was a 6 hour drive for him, to scout out picnic places, hotels, places to eat, and other stuff. Also, plan on having 0 fun that weekend. Between making sure the track event is running straight, listen to people complain, dealing with the hotel staff, making sure the raffle is going smooth, and everything else, by the time you catch your breath, everyone has gone home. I've heard many people say Birmingham was the best convention they went to, but I don't remember any of it. I ran around at the track all day, got to drive in a few sessions, and by the time it was time for dinner, I fet sick,didn't eat, and was in bed by 9. I'm sure JP had a similar experience, but he had Saturday to kind of recover between the track and picnic.

I would love to see the convention in FL, but from a logistics point of view, Miami makes it hard for anyone not in FL to drive. From Nashville to Miami is at least a 14 - 15 hr drive. LA is pretty far out there, but CA is a big state, and most of the people who did drive, didn't have to drive all the way through the state to get there.





Wow! Sounds like a crap load of work to me. Why would anyone want to go through all that trouble?
2008-01-15 22:47:35
#413
Originally Posted by trance34

4. I think it was Serban who came up last year and didn't pay a dime. Typically though you would buy a T-shirt ($15), some raffle tickets (up to you but say $20) and a picnic ticket ($15). Those are optional though and don't have to be bought


Yup, you're right, I didn't contribute anything to the convention, I came up there last minute, so I scrounged enough money just for the flight up. Wish I could have contributed more though.
2008-01-15 22:49:46
#414
You contributed by showing up and having a good time. I was just using you as an example that you don't have to spend but loads of money to have fun!
2008-01-15 22:52:37
#415
Originally Posted by Andreas
I am out on this. I will be putting my attention towards doing a FL SR20 convention meet every year at you know what time.


Andreas, for the benefit of the noobs like myself, seriously, when would that be?

I can't figure out any of these schedules. Hell, I'll drive to GA or FL from CT but not if I can't plan in advance a little. One is about the same as another once you're into NC.

Thanks in advance, please PM me if you're tired of posting on this thread, much appreciated.
2008-01-15 22:53:57
#416
I cant believe I am making a post again here.

FL did not ask SERCA for any F__KING money did we. We just wanted a go ahead. We can come up with our own damn money so get off of that crap. SERCA just wants there name on it so they can collect more money in memebership.

We never asked for SERCA money
We dont want no F__king SERCA money
All we asked for was the National convention.

Thats when they, SERCA said we need to have a cetain amount of memebers to have that happen. Now you tell me who was asking who for money. These are the damn facts so dont change them around.

We can pull our own DAMN money. That is the least of the probelm.

Let me tell you something I raffled a VE motor for a sick members kid on the previous form.

I came up with $4000 off of a raffle of one SR20VE motor. Thats right I gave up a free VE motor for the sick members kid on the house and sent him all the money. All $4000 of it. Thats is the facts.

Dont Mother F__king tell me we need SERCA money.

Let me say it again, all we wanted was the go ahead. That was it they could keep there money.
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