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2008-01-14 15:39:25
#291
Originally Posted by BigB
The track day cost has always been less for SERCA members. The difference in the cost between SERCA and non-SERCA members was/is the former price of a SERCA membership. I think I was told it was about $15-30 difference, not sure on the exact price.

The cost to attend the convention is the same for all, i.e. - picnic and t-shirt and raffle tickets. At least that is what I was told.



Thank you for some answers. This is great we are getting somehwere without throwing shots back and forth. I will wait for a few more people who know.

I was told that non SERCA members payed $25- $30 less also.

That means SERCA members about $175 and Non members $200. Is this a fare statement.
2008-01-14 15:39:27
#292
The convention can be as cheap or as expensive as you want it to be. You can not run on the track, not buy a T shirt, raffle tickets, and bring your own food to the picnic. Now you are left with you travel expenses. If it is local, then you are out whatever gas money. There is no flat registration fee.

Why don't you make an effort to fly out to vegas this year and see how the whole process works? Until then, it will be hard to hand the convention over to a group that has never been to one and doesn't know what is involved.
2008-01-14 15:39:53
#293
Originally Posted by Andreas
Thank you for your answer but I will wait for a few more to get the numbers in a given ball park.


Why? I hosted last year and am aware of the costs, I have also been to every convention since 02. I was once a serca member for a year.

BigB the cost for the track for a Serca member was $150, but there are only 3-5 lifetime serca members that came lat year.
2008-01-14 15:41:15
#294
Originally Posted by Andreas
Here is your defination smarty pants

A non-profit organization (abbreviated "NPO", also "non-profit" or "not-for-profit") is a legally constituted organization whose primary objective is to support or to actively engage in activities of public or private interest without any commercial or monetary profit purposes. NPOs are active in a wide range of areas, including the environment, humanitarian aid, animal protection, education, the arts, social issues, charities, early childhood education, health care, politics, religion, research, sports or other endeavors.


Exactly.

That does not mean they cannot make a profit. It simply means their purpose is to serve a cause. I am a member of SCCA, a non-profit entity. However, my local region strives to be profitable every year.

Why? To help defray next year's costs and to have money to reinvest in infrastructure and buy new equipment and maintain existing equipment. A non-profit is still a business and has to operate as such. That means having capital to offset costs and money to reinvest in itself.
2008-01-14 15:41:17
#295
Thanks for your answers but, does anyone have solid accurate prices?

I am very curious on all these figures. I am just tryin to add up how much money is made every year.
2008-01-14 15:48:53
#296
Originally Posted by SE-Rican
Thanks for your answers but, does anyone have solid accurate prices?

I am very curious on all these figures. I am just tryin to add up how much money is made every year.


Cost is not the same every year I would imagine. Tracks cost differently on different days and time of year and each track costs different from another.

Same with picnic costs. Economy of scale. More people the cost of food goes up but potentially the individual cost per person could go down if done properly.

Some picnic areas might require a paid reservation to hold the site. I think that was the case at both Birmingham and NY/NJ since they were State Parks.
2008-01-14 15:51:31
#297
Originally Posted by BigB
Exactly.

That does not mean they cannot make a profit. It simply means their purpose is to serve a cause. I am a member of SCCA, a non-profit entity. However, my local region strives to be profitable every year.

Why? To help defray next year's costs and to have money to reinvest in infrastructure and buy new equipment and maintain existing equipment. A non-profit is still a business and has to operate as such. That means having capital to offset costs and money to reinvest in itself.


I guess you are not reading this properly, let me highlight the main facts for you.

is a legally constituted organization whose primary objective is to support or to actively engage in activities of public or private interest without any commercial or monetary profit purposes

As you can see your EXACTLY is not exactly making and sence.
2008-01-14 15:52:56
#298
This was a organization, that answered to know one not even its members. When the going got a little slow they dipped. Seems more like a shame to me.
2008-01-14 15:53:49
#299
BigB you are arguing a point that clearly shows these people pocketed the money and ran.
2008-01-14 15:53:55
#300
So lets do some numers for the math guys.

Let say all you could pull was 200 SERCA members a year at $30. Thast $6,000. This is an honestly low figure and you all know this. Can you just think how much money was collected a year to be a member.

Track rentals are in the general relm of $2000-$4000

You are selling food and drinks, that is great as the costs need to be payed for.

You are selling T shirts again another cost paying move.

From what I am seeing, the convention as a hole can be payed for from guys going on the track, food sales, T shirt sales and raffle ticket sales. Is this a fare statement.

That being said what was done with the non profit money for yearly and life time membership collected over the years. I though that this thing was non profit. $30 is alot for a sticker and maybe a pc of paper.
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