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2008-01-18 04:40:14
#41
Originally Posted by sqd
i understand what you're saying. and honestly, it's a hell of a price for what you get both SSAC and BC.

but is there any R&D into their products? any proof that the product is actually their design? hotshot went out of business because people were ripping off their designs and selling it for half the price.

just sad to see.

and JER. i've sat there and listened to performance industry business owners FIRST HAND and understand that competition is what makes the world go around. but when people are stealing other peoples' designs, that's just wrong. knowing it's wrong and not supporting companies like that is called having morals. i'm glad that SSAC has grown the balls to make their own designs and IMPROVE on other people's designs. that is competition. but just stealing it is just BS.


i agree completely..............there wasnt a lick of R&D.............they noticed the gen 5 was kick ass.....they improved apon the design. with no R&D costs that will drive prices way down. it sucks hot shot went out of business. i simply do not have the funds to toss around simply to support a cause. if i can buy the same header...or slightly better version of it for over 50% less..............thats exactly what im doing. if i had the money to say "screw it! ill just buy the hot shot" i still wouldnt.....i would buy the turbofreak header.
2008-01-18 04:42:29
#42
Originally Posted by GT2871RBLUBIRD
i think that if a company is really concerned about their design they can either patent the design. or have a market for customers that arent looking to spent top dollar. the whole reason for patnents is so that noone else can take the design and use it as their own.any copmany that doesnt patent or try to patent their design isnt really worried about people copying it


this has been coverd many many many times........i could rip off the JWT S4 cams down the the .00001 and juuuuuuuuuuuuuust slightly change one very minor measurement........walla! not the same any more aka, patent useless.
2008-01-18 04:47:33
#43
Originally Posted by Vex630
Since the 4 Piece UR pulley set is discontinued cant you run just the UR Crank pulley and combine it with the OBX accessory pulleys? Seeing as the UR Crank pulley has the timing marks and it IS the important pulley... So you only buy the UR crank pulley then buy the OBX set and just use the WP, PS, Alternator pulleys.




Brian Crower cams are regrinds............


i orderd them last night............i have no idea if the timing marks are there or not.


to your oh so bold statement of "crower cams are regrinds" were is your proof? i have held a set of stage 2's and i know what regrinds look like.........

again, not saying BC is better than jwt in any way. but i know damn well its no regrind.
2008-01-18 04:57:59
#44
Hopefully they added the timing marks, I'm sure people have mentioned it to them. This was a couple of years ago when they were sold without the marks, so who knows now.

Also, IIRC back then some of the pulleys were not underdrive, just lightened.
2008-01-18 05:10:41
#45
Originally Posted by classicaddict
i orderd them last night............i have no idea if the timing marks are there or not.


to your oh so bold statement of "crower cams are regrinds" were is your proof? i have held a set of stage 2's and i know what regrinds look like.........

again, not saying BC is better than jwt in any way. but i know damn well its no regrind.


Quoted from the other forum
http://www.sr20forum.com/1663322-post3.html

If I recall correctly BC cams used to be regrinds (before they entered the SR20 market). So I guess they arent anymore.

But cams arent the issue here. Its the Pulleys. I would be scared of putting an unknown crank pulley on my engine. Like I was asking before.... If it would be ok to run a UR crank pulley and the 3 EBAY/OBX accessory pulleys... That would be great since UR doesnt offer the full set anymore.
2008-01-18 06:16:03
#46
well if you were that concerned you could always take the pullies to a machine shop and have them balanced to make sure they were ok.. other than that i dont really see a ton that could go wring with them other than the timing marks and thats really minor
2008-01-18 21:28:03
#47
Originally Posted by classicaddict
if i had the money to say "screw it! ill just buy the hot shot" i still wouldnt.....i would buy the turbofreak header.


hands down
2008-01-19 03:40:33
#48
Originally Posted by Vex630
Quoted from the other forum
http://www.sr20forum.com/1663322-post3.html

If I recall correctly BC cams used to be regrinds (before they entered the SR20 market). So I guess they arent anymore.

But cams arent the issue here. Its the Pulleys. I would be scared of putting an unknown crank pulley on my engine. Like I was asking before.... If it would be ok to run a UR crank pulley and the 3 EBAY/OBX accessory pulleys... That would be great since UR doesnt offer the full set anymore.


its my full intention to run the stock crank pulley untill i have all the bugs worked out of the engine once installed.

once the engine is running like a top i will install the crank pulley. i have no issues running this. if the pulley for some reason fails its just going to toss the belts around. i notice my temps riseing and i pull over, not to mention the sound of shreaded belts is pretty hellacious.
2008-01-19 03:49:34
#49
Let's all drive cheap bikes with plastic spokes...
Well, I think after seeing that "poor excuse for a clutch / plate", manufactured so far off-center, I have to wonder if a child or woman, earning less than $5.00 a day, while sitting at a 1970's milling machine; really cares about quality metallurgy or harmonic stress points.

If just one wheel is slightly off-center or the shaft is diagonally opposed through the center of slag aluminum, with pot metal "chunks" allowed in the formula, or they dropped one, during manufacture and allowed it to be shipped anyways, then you indeed get much less quality control, than what you paid for; even at a super low price.

I don't mind supporting quality parts engineering and distributors, as long as the service is exceptional. Rarely does this euphoric ideal occur at anywhere near equal quality, service and price.

Pick 2...

1) Fast

2) Good Quality

3) Cheap

I'll take the good stuff, as long as I can get it.
My brand new strut bolts were $86.00 from Nissan.
Worth every penny for peace of mind.

Anyone here wants to sell his unmounted, machine perfect, high dollar wheelies, so they can support OBX dirt, please PM me with a reasonable price and I'll be happy to take those expensive wheels right off your hands,...

It's either "round" and "true", or it's not.
It shall remain "round" and "true", or it shall not.
2008-01-19 06:37:44
#50
you are right...if anyone had any kind of interest in buying these anyway and have them taken to a machine shop and have them check it out and make sure everything was good, than it would give others the go head to get them
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