hp10t Most people don't know the capabilities of a calum realtime because they can't tune(myself included) so they think o this is crap. Calum provides a base tune and then you must do the real work in getting the most out of your car. Calums stuff will be ever evolving so in no way is it outdated. I will say this again there are other people on this forum that can put calum boards into your ecu so you dont have to wait as long. If you know what you were looking at then the realtime will help you get what you want out of your car.Its a cool idea but I'm sticking with calum because I don't see a need to change something that a lot of high power people use. Also your car feels amazing because you got a tune for once (something that should be done as soon as your car is up and running). Before you were running a base program with no fine tune adjustments that would help your motor run stronger.