driven on my second set on KUMHO SPT'S,, kicks the crap out of the falken in my opinion,,, NO complaints on wet or dry so far,, I drive right at 90 mi a day on the Nc roads.... at 75 a tire ([url]www.discounttiredirect.com)I[/url] don't see any reason to pay 100+ for the same or close to the same under other brands...