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2009-01-08 20:53:10
#21
Originally Posted by Char
Its just like when you change the header, it moves some of the low end torque higher up, allowing for more HP at higher RPMs.


No. It's not at all like a header in that way. Myth, all the way.
2009-01-08 20:54:38
#22
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2009-01-08 20:55:04
#23
Originally Posted by BenFenner
This is a flat out lie, and I'd appreciate you not perpetuating this myth.


And so it comes out :flamesuit on:
Good thing I didnt make that claim, or I'd have a dyno sheet jammed up my arse
I've been in a na sr20de with 3" and my 2.5 does sound much nicer for a DD, and that's my primary basis on my 'bad idea' comment - I'd like not to have the police checking out my vehicle because I vibrated the coffee in their mug at the donut shop.
2009-01-08 21:00:56
#24
Originally Posted by Char
Actually, now that I think of it, I dont think Ive ever seen anyone bother to do head to head Dyno of larger exhaust and keeping the headers the same...
Go look for a head-to-head dyno of an engine with a header and no exhaust (or a dump pipe) and with a full exhaust. This is the extreme example of what you're after, and you'll be able to see no low end power was lost. There should be gains everywhere.
2009-01-08 21:22:27
#25
I have always read that 2.5 was the best for N/A i mean stuff changes over the years so that could be outdated info now
2009-01-08 21:26:34
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2009-01-08 21:28:07
#27
Originally Posted by Char
I have to agree with BenFenner. I was read up on all of this a couple years ago when the SSAC 2.5 header came out.

The reason everyone says 2.5 inch for DE and 3 inch for VE is almost entirely based on weighing the options between gaining more power appose to making more noise. Doesnt anyone remember when everyone said the DE was best with a 2.25 inch exhaust? Had to do with the fact most companies didnt make a 2.5 inch header...

Dont forget, a engine is just an air pump. The more air you allow through it, the more power you can make. Dumbing it down a little, the only reason not to keep going up in exhaust size is the fact the engine cant bring in any extra air then it already is without changing more.

Anyway.. if you dont care about the noise, a 3 inch is just fine. Be it, wont be noticeable gains (without a dyno) unless you start doing other things, such as cams.


^BINGO! If I ran 3", I would run the Magnaflow Resonator #12640 for sound control only! Char is right. If anybody around says different, you are talking like a rookie.
2009-01-08 21:31:47
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2009-01-08 21:39:25
#29
Regarding exhaust size and noise levels:

Originally Posted by BenFenner
This is not entirely true. Most people when going to a larger exhaust take the easy/cheap/performance minded way out and eliminate a lot of what makes the exhaust quiet, whether it be the catalytic converter, well designed stock resonators, or great noise reducing mufflers. It wasn't going from 2" to 3" that made their car louder, it was the deletion of one or more of the stock muffling components or replacing them with inferior muffling substitutes usually in the name of performance or cost.
It is possible to design a larger exhaust that is just as quiet or in some cases more quiet than factory. It just takes some effort. Granted, a larger exhaust will produce relatively lower tones than a smaller exhaust at the same volume (dB output). The human ear/brain perceives high and low tones of the same dB differently which makes the idea of "louder" in this case even muddier. =/

Source: e30tech.com Forums - View Single Post - Exhaust size discussion
2009-01-08 21:54:59
#30
The stock exhaust system (which is on there now) is terrible for performance too, how much worse can this be? I'm preparing for turbo, just trying to get an idea of what kind of performance gains and/or losses there are going to be and any input on the parts I have selected.
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