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Thread: Toyota FT-86 / Subaru BRZ: Japanese (not Siamese) Twins

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2011-12-07 08:35:41
#311
Originally Posted by Vex630
If STI ever gets it's hand on the BRZ and slaps a turbo on this car it will be very similar to an FD RX7.


it was announced buy Motor Trend that Subaru said they will have a turbo version of the eng.
Last edited by nissan crazy on 2011-12-07 at 09-06-50.
2011-12-07 09:02:33
#312
Please direct me to that link. Because I googled and found this Subaru Confirms Turbocharged Version of BRZ Engine - WOT on Motor Trend . This doesn't confirm that the car will have the turbo engine.
2011-12-07 09:07:46
#313
Originally Posted by Vex630
Please direct me to that link. Because I googled and found this Subaru Confirms Turbocharged Version of BRZ Engine - WOT on Motor Trend . This doesn't confirm that the car will have the turbo engine.


Sorry I could have sworn they said it will make it to the BRZ yesterday ...Hmmm
2011-12-07 11:52:12
#314
Originally Posted by Isfahan
First drive: Subaru BRZ coupe - BBC Top Gear


The 42mpg caught my eye.

Not sure about the styling...it looks a bit chessy...I'd have to see one in person.
2011-12-07 13:18:19
#315
Thread cleaned up a bit as some comments were taken out of context and personal attacks started flying.
2011-12-07 13:24:30
#316
Originally Posted by Isfahan
First drive: Subaru BRZ coupe - BBC Top Gear


I like this part:

How best to describe it as an overall package? Keen. Eager. It’s not puppy-ish in its enthusiasm, it’s a bit more measured than that, but it’s a lot of fun. Easily better to drive than a VW Scirocco; more agile and rewarding than any Audi TT. It may not have the lungs on a Nissan 370Z, but it’s way more dextrous and I can’t think of any hot hatch except possibly the Renaultsport Clio that provides as much satisfaction.
2011-12-07 13:27:48
#317
Originally Posted by Vex630
Please direct me to that link. Because I googled and found this Subaru Confirms Turbocharged Version of BRZ Engine - WOT on Motor Trend . This doesn't confirm that the car will have the turbo engine.



Bingo!!
I may be wrong here, but I dont think Subby has the mindset of Steve Jobs (cannibalization of previous/other hardware in the lineup).

I have a feeling the next generation WRX/STI will have this engine, as compared to the BRZ having it. I am pretty sure with the turbo version you run into two problems

1) Price range and which class of cars it falls in
2) Undermining STI/WRX sales

But if they do produce it, it better be less than 30K and circa 245 hp max.........Any more and you directly run into the WRX category.
Dont forget, not all people need 4wd where they live and the inherent loss of gas mileage that comes with the added weight/extra parts.

But here is the kicker; I have a feeling Toyota may be lobbying behind the scenes about using the turbo version of the engine in the 86 version, but that would be entirely pointless to have one chassis have the turbo engine and not the other..................


But you know what, I am reaching out on a limb here and there is a good chance I am wrong
2011-12-07 13:37:15
#318
Boostlee, I feel there is a good reason for a turbo version and a supercharged version. The supercharged version gives you that NA feel but more of it and better power delivery over the turbo version where the turbo setup will be more for the power hungry crowd. 2 cars the same moving in diffrent directions
2011-12-07 13:49:06
#319
Originally Posted by Andreas
Boostlee, I feel there is a good reason for a turbo version and a supercharged version. The supercharged version gives you that NA feel but more of it and better power delivery over the turbo version where the turbo setup will be more for the power hungry crowd. 2 cars the same moving in diffrent directions


I also feel that it will not undermine the sales for WRX/STi Imprezas. Two different cars for two entirely different crowds. I don't see them damaging either market with the release of a turbocharged variant. It only makes sense that they do, if TRD is definitely producing a SC for the Scion.

If anything, Subaru would release the '13 model with FI options so that they don't lose market to Toyota.

There's a lot of hype in the Subaru community for these cars, but most don't want to get rid of their AWD whether this car has FI or not. I for one will be purchasing a BRZ and keeping my wagon for versatility.
2011-12-07 14:49:32
#320
It sounds underpowered in the video. I think an extra 50-75 would do the trick. The handling looks promising right out of box. A blower would be great for road course duty. I'm keeping an eye on this one.
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