Thread: Toyota FT-86 / Subaru BRZ: Japanese (not Siamese) Twins

Its not about having overwhelming or even big power numbers. Thats not the most compelling need of the initial target market.

Its about having enough power and respectable mpg/emissions with a chassis/suspension that shines when pushed hard. Also I feel the mid-range will be exceptional making it very useful power. It willfeel much faster than it actually is for most buyers.

How many people are comfortable driving a motor that you need to habitually rev up to and over 7k? I know revving out vvl makes a lot of my passengers uncomfortable. Especially since I just sit there kind of stone faced rowing through gears...

A car that I would actually buy over the genesis 2.0t r-spec. Something that a real enthusiast wants built by enthusiasts. I am in awe over this car, something that hasn't been produced since the early 90's.... I really hope the weight stays where they say and they have a factory warrantied TRD supercharger or a TRD or type-s model. Either way, if not, seems as though they built it to be tuned so I'm sure that there will be a whole lineup of TRD parts. Finally someone listened!!!!!!!!!!! I sure hope that they sell out and it makes every car company that didn't used to suck build at least one vehicle like this. I would prefer one like this and a fwd sports hatchback without a ton of weight and a high revving decent stock powered engine that is easily tuneable. I would say Mazda would probably be next in line if this works out along with Hyundai and Kia. Nissan may follow suit but I imagine they will be a few years behind. Honda needs a new s2000 and a civic type r hatch with light weight like they used to be. I am super excited about this. Otherwise, even if I have money to buy a new car, it would be a commuter and I will still modify an older vehicle like most of us still do.

I don't care for a boxer layout simply because it's inefficient from maintenance point of view. It takes my buddy about 2 hours to replace the spark plugs on his H6 Legacy...

Plus having separated headers just for 4 cylinders seems like a waste too. I4 is just makes more sense for 4 cylinders.



250whp for 2700lbs car??? Where do I sign up! I had 230whp on 2660lb Sentra and it was plenty fast. It could compete with any stock turbo/na cars.



What???? I love the boxer rumble, being turbo and with an STI muffler I get a similar rumble but different at the same time. Everyone who heard me driving new it was me because of the unique (not in a bad way) exhaust note.

It looks better in this blue. The tail lights still scream ricer. They should have called it a Celica. To me this car fills more of the Celica role and not the cheaper role the AE86 had. I'll stay tuned. I probably need to get into a newer car. Twenty year old cars do have their drawbacks, lol.

Oh and I think it would have been better for Toyota to sell this car as a Toyota and not a Scion. I think they are trying to save Scion, but Toyota is the brand that needs a shot of cool.

Not a huge fan. With that much (little) power it needs to be under 2800lbs. Hopefully they stick to their goal. I do like that it's nearly the same size as the 3rd gen Miatas, real neat.

Edit: Nevermind saw the weight for the Subaru with the CF hatch. Seems like it will be the next S15.

I'm curious to see what STi is going to do with it.

How about a NA 250 bhp (225 whp), 2.2 liter VE Sentra B13 SE-R? Would that be quick enough?

OK. Now put your big buddy, who weighs 200 lbs, in the passenger seat.


Bada-bing. I'm with Vadim.

See my example above.

Definitely sounds plenty fast to have way too much fun.

Awesome article and photos.

Amazing really. Never figured a big manufacturer would ever get a clue.

Delete the wing. Might have to have Tearoffguy do something to the taillights to make them a bit less altezza'ish. Both of which are minor and relatively easy aesthetic fixes.

Toyota and Subaru are going to sell a shit-ton of those.

^^plus RWD makes it a little more fun haha but to correct its only going to have 200hp/150tq not 250 and thats at the crank lol sexy as hell but slow as ballz

America's S15.