Originally Posted by Vadim 
From what I'm getting, there is a rather high dislike towards Ben from some individuals. I am also trying to put my finger to it, maybe I've missed some keystone posts that made that general mindset of him. To me it seems like a lot of people dislike the fact that has big long replies that are fairly proper, which makes him seem "smarter" or better yet "better" then the others. Another thing might be that he has a response to just about any post that's pointed towards him, thus making him seem like a smart ass.
I personally have had no problems with him, and we disagree on most things, except for cars. Yet I don't think I've seen any posts that would make him seem as a smart ass, or better then anyone else.
Ben and I have gotten waaaaay sideways over at least one thing. Our sense of humor. Or rather, the fact that my sense of humor has at least one very large dead-zone.
Additionally, I have been accused of the exact same "posting attributes." An accusation that is technically correct, yet entirely misguided.
Originally Posted by BenFennerEric Hsu puts this far better than I can: Click on the link for the entire article, it has some content that won't pass the mods here
FFF (Fucking Forum Fаggots)
The same goes for the FFF (Fucking Forum Fаggots). It doesn't describe you at all if you read past the little part I quoted. Don't take that the wrong way. I don't think you are a FFF. I'm just pointing out your selective quoting.
Right smack dab in the middle of my humor dead-zone.
I may join MotoIQ just to respond. ......delete...... He makes another homophobic remark later in his childish rant. I suspect that such folks are secretly closeted or insecure about their personal sexual orientation.
I always (always) wonder if such disrespectful......(Eric Hsu) would speak that way in a public setting (?). They would do so in my presence exactly one (1) time.
EDIT: For The Record. Eric and I had a discussion over his posted Rant. He made an extremely poor word choice, which is in fact metaphorical hate speech. However, Eric is not actually bigoted, that Rant was using metaphorical hate speech in jest and in jest only.
Shawn B
Originally Posted by BenFennerI realize I'm prevalent here on this forum and I post very often and I make some friends and I make some enemies.
Welcome to the club.
Originally Posted by BenFennerYou don't want people (or just me?) to comment on cars they don't like on the forum? Understandable from a "let's all get along" point of view but I have to disagree with you there (and I mean that with all the respect in the world because I do respect you, otherwise I wouldn't be having this discussion with you) and I believe many of the forum members will back me up here when I say that if you post your car on the forum you should be ready for positive and negative reactions. Not only that, but both are encouraged by general consensus. I'm part of forums where negative opinions of cars are not encouraged. I know what that's like. This is not one of those forums. On top of that, those who do choose to voice their negative opinions are encouraged to do so by many members here. I encourage people to do it to my car. If you hate it, let me know. I'm not alone in this thinking here on the forum. I believe you might even be in the minority here in thinking that only good things should be said.
It's not some hate fest. It's a bunch of friends hanging out at the local watering hole.
Agreed.
Originally Posted by TheRealNighthog Ben you do seem a bit arrogant at times but it also can be said that some things you say go over alot of peoples heads. An example is your sense of humor... I find it hilarious but alot of people dont get it. Its just how you are and it seems inadvertant.
Dont change for people here.
Agreed.
Sometimes, I do not "get" Ben's humor. Which does not mean that I do not like Ben, or that we do not get along.
I surely don't want him to change his writing, thoughts, presentation, or diatribe in the interests of "pleasing others."
Originally Posted by xCONWRATHx Ben, you're far too well written and you put too much time and effort into your posts. Therefore, you are a pompous douchebag. I see no error with my logic.
I cannot argue with that Spock-like and unimpeachable logic, therefore I would be Pompous Douchebag #2 checking in.
Don't forget that with his "time and effort" Ben also quotes the sh*t out of folks. Quote, quote, quote, all the damn time. From what I understand per my detractors, Ben should "get a life".
Not to mention that superblackz falls into that same posting category.
Originally Posted by TheRealNighthog exactly. So far he has confronted every accusation head on and from researching his previous posts i havent seen a single instance where he has come forth and proclaimed himself a Nissan or SR20 guru.
The problem lies in that he often proves people wrong and people hate that. He also doesnt back down unless you can prove without a shadow of a doubt he was incorrect. All I see is false accusations and bullshit. He can be arrogant if he wants, I think thats alot better than being a whiny little bitch.
Yup.
Originally Posted by xCONWRATHx Also, you spend far too much time making certain that your intentions are clear by stating things multiple times with a variety of word choice. I hate that. Can't you just be mildly vague and then become upset when people have a tough time understanding you?
You will go out of your way to discuss things in an in-depth manner when the need arises which makes it very difficult to refute your words.
You write large posts; I dislike reading and therefore you think you are somehow better than I am. Get off your high horse.
My biggest issue with you is that you seem to have some sort of greater life aspiration for yourself, could you please just become accustomed to mediocrity and stop trying so damn much?
Yer killin' me.
Originally Posted by Cliff Meh. I don't see what all the fuss is about. I'm not about to choose sides here, but I SERIOUSLY think that everyone needs to just chill out for a few minutes. You guys are turning this into a pissing contest and the majority of the people here are taking jabs at Ben.
Everyone know's he's a "character", but I'd rather live life with characters, than with boring half-wits.
If you don't agree with his posts, then simply ignore him. I do so on many occasions. That still doesn't make him a bad person, it just makes him highly opinionated.
Cliff on point. This little on-line, dysfunctional, and familial community is full of characters.
I can only imagine how boring this forum would be if everyone checked all their opinions, only spoke favorably about vehicles posted, and all composed their posts in the same "forum approved" truncated manner.
Nor am I choosing sides. I get along with both BenFenner and superblackz, and fully appreciate each of their contributions to our forum.
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