Thread: 00-02 P11 G20 Autos too slow?

WTF?

Of course the discussion from the OP was about the auto p11 and questioning how slow it is compared to a p10 auto but it has since gone in different directions.


Basic fact is the BTCC p11 had independent rear suspension like the p10 and unlike our daily driver p11 in the USA.

Another basic fact is weight and the p11 is heavier than the p10.

Making the 'same' changes to make a race car is a moot point because the rear beam changes the rear suspension dynamics of course and then the weight is the weight (there is only so much weight loss possible on either p10 or p11 obviously)

^I never compared anything to the P10 auto. I've never owned one. My point was how unsafe the P11 made me feel when I floored the car on the interestate to get out of the way and the car barely moved. Post #50 in this thread explains in full detail my intentions for this car.

EDIT: P.S. The car received a full tuneup right after I purchased it and all fluids flushed.

^Post #1 also explains that I have two 5speed B13 projects and converting this car to a manual is out of the question. If I would have wanted a P11 manual, I would have purchased one. I have 3 vehicles right now and this was suppose to be something nice that I can travel in and get a break from shifting gears. After all, it does have a SR20 engine in it, I just was not aware of how much the auto trans, 1st and 2nd gear of the auto trans, and the pre cat would rob. Again, maybe a SSAC header would help a little bit to get it moving.



^Kinda yes. 04-06 wheels, Amber turn signals, clear corners, tint, but no rain guards.

He's just another P10 trolling.

yup.. my apologies... I was the one comparing the p10 to p11 auto in my mind and it was not at all posted by the OP

Chris is a female,

...and the bottom line is we have owned both p10s and p11s in both auto and stick (along with b13, b14 and b15 sticks)


If I were to get an auto p11, it would be a 99 and not a RR one.

If I wanted a better more comfy daily driver, I'd get a p11 every time.. but for more 'enthusiastic' driving where I could give up some comfort factor, I'd go p10 every time.

I'd also never go back to a b15 (not even an SPECV because been there, done that too) but would go back to a p11 (it was that enjoyable as a daily driver)

So p10 troll? not at all.... I like both the p10 and p11 for different reasons is all.

Here's something interesting for the rose colored glasses crowd:

Motor Week observed 0-60 and 1/4 mile times, bone stock:

91 p10 5 speed = 8.2
99 p11 5 speed = 8.5

91 p10 5 speed = 16.5 @86mph
99 p11 5 speed = 16.3 @90 mph

...meaning we can treat this as a religious discussion.

^ wonder how those numbers change for automatic though and the RR p11

Wikipedia claims that the '99 MY P11 (w/ Auto trans) does:

0-60pmh: 10.9 seconds

1/4 mile: 18.4 @ 77mph