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2007-12-22 00:07:23
#41
http://ststurbo.com/testimonials

Everything performs just as promised and I was very happy with my 2001 Z06 putting down 562 rwhp and 570rwtq on the dyno after tuning. Seeing as my car put out 331 to the rear tire stock thats a 231rwhp increase with just the turbo install and running it at 9psi on an otherwise stock LS6 engine.
2007-12-22 08:50:40
#42
Originally Posted by matt_pound
yes intercoolers do have somthing to do with hot exhaust gasses, the turbo compressing the air isn't the only thing creating heat

i havn't seen anything on the heat turbos create compressing the air, but i just read an article where they did a study on a roots type supercharge had a bunch of charts and calculations that i'm not going into, and the most heat it generated compressing the air at 10psi was 200 degrees with an outside air temp of 75 degrees


last time i checked your exhaust manifold gets wayyy hotter than that so i would assume hot exhaust gas contributes to the heat of the air going into the intake


the amount of time that the air spends in the compressor housing is not enough to heat the air just from the hot compressor housing, which never gets as hot as the exhaust manifold. 99% of the heat comes from compressing the air.
2007-12-22 17:22:58
#43
i still feel that this setup could probably only work really well on the larger motors, or smaller displacement with higher compression that might work too
2007-12-22 21:42:27
#44
The greater the temp difference between the ambient air and the air inside the compressor outlet pipes the better they will cool. And it's long enough to keep cooling it. It's probably not as efficient as an intercooler, but I bet it gets the job done. However, while this is some cool engineering, they're not really taking advantage of what turbos were designed around. Put a turbo at the ports, and not downstream, and you're going to get better performance due to much less heat loss.
2007-12-22 23:15:42
#45
tell ya what i bet a rear mount turbo on a b13 with no intercooler would be better than a top mount.

so not running a intercooler keeping a rear mount set-up around 7-9 wouldnt be the worst thing in the world but deff not recogmended considering the amount of money invested putting it in the car aswell as what is already on the car.

ive seen this set-up on a 300c with twin rear mounts makin around 1000hp installed by montillego motors (<<
2007-12-22 23:38:05
#46
Just a few conversation points that I've always wanted to discuss about this bit of kit....

LAG - you know, I bet the volume between a standard FMIC unit and the piping-only of the STS-type kit would be comparable. Agreed?

OIL PRESS - this would be the only thing I'd be worried about. Since it's below the oil pan, pump, etc., does this mean that there's no problem keeping pressure high enough, even though the distance is so long?

TURBO DESIGN - Since heat use will be almost 0 (distance from head to turbo) does this mean that you'd have to design a turbine housing to correspond to this change? It was always my understanding that turbochargers get some of their relatively good efficiency from using heat to keep flow up. Or, could you just heat-wrap the hell out of your exhaust and hope for the best?

Just some things I've always wondered - help me out.

Thanks!
///h
2007-12-23 00:10:56
#47
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they seem pretty wicked
2007-12-23 00:11:41
#48
they use oil pumps to pump the oil back
2007-12-23 14:51:35
#49
ive seen this on a bmw E30 also but it did have quite some lag.
2007-12-23 16:56:34
#50
I work with a bunch of GM nuts and they all rave about this setup. It does make great power for thier cars. However, thier cars are most efficient producing torque in the low rev range at wot. So, add boost on top of that rev range in the mid-high to high range and it will feel like there's no lag at all. This doesn't seem like a good idea for an engine that makes most of its power in the mid to high range to begin with. Plus, as mentioned before, the amount of heat after that much exhaust pipe is reduced quite a bit. Those engines make enough heat to compensate for that heat dissipation due to having around 3x the amount of displacement as ours to keep the heat energy up to an acceptable level through that much piping.

that's my 2 cents.
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