Thread: Even more build woes...

You're fine.

The confusion was that I took the drive gear out of the VE pump, and put the DE drive gear in. I thought the drive gear was the spacer as mentioned above (OOPS!)

I haven't pulled the DET spacer to compare it to the DE that's still on my old DE crank/block, but I assume it will be fine, considering I had no belt alignment issues with the DE crank pulley on a DET block.

The VE and the DET are different (one is taller VE I think). I can't say for sure if you will have issues or not though. A lot depends on the pulley too

The VE is in fact taller. I'm using the DET, and just slapped the DE pulley back on. Looks fine by eyesight as far as the belt issues go. I haven't cranked her over as I haven't tightened the belts back down yet, and cleaned everything else up (as well as taking an impact wrench to the crank pulley bolt).

I'm hoping that I see oil pressure this time around. Wondering what it should build to, just by cranking it, though.

DE pulley = DE spacer. VE/GTIR pulley = VE/GTIR spacer. Take the crank pulley off and use the correct spacer/pulley setup. Otherwise you will have belt wear issues. the de spacer is shorter than the others so please, do it right and only use the spacer that is correct for the pulley you are using.

DET and DE is the same

This is what I was told. When I had the car running the first time, it was a DET thru and thru, but it didn't ship with the DET pulley so I used my DE pulley. Worked fine.

The DE/DET spacers are the short ones. They are interchangeable. The GTIR and VE spacers are the bigger ones.

i bought the ve oil pump/pulley kit from greg so hopefully it will be right

You should be fine, you'll need the VE spacer, which I'm sure probably comes with the kit.

Yet another update Went to crank her over by hand, and she was stiff as hell. Tried by turning the key to prime the system, and it didn't really even want to crank, so I didn't force it.

Took the pulley off to check crank by hand, and it's smooth as buttah.

Wierd! Okay, so on to the pics.













Needless to say, the crank is definitely rubbing against the timing cover, causing it to seize.

Now, If I had a GTIR spacer or VE spacer, the pulley would stick out further than it is at the moment. That may have to be the solution that will be required. The block is 78E, which tells me (IIRC,) that it's not a GTIR motor. The old pump also leads me to believe that it's a bluebird motor, because the old oil pick up tube wouldn't fit on the new VE pump.

The crank pulley is a DE crank pulley that I pulled off of my old DE block. So, basically, it should work just perfectly. WTF am I missing, now? This **** is driving me batty.