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Thread: SR20VE+T E85/93 Comparison (Log manifold/GT3076R/NismoTronicSA)

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2013-09-18 17:15:47
#11
Originally Posted by JKTUNING
Originally Posted by liljay781
so will i need to run 2 pumps or just the one


A single Walbro 255 with ID1000 injectors will net you around 400whp on E85 .. if you plan on going any higher than that you would need to do a bigger fuel pump, upgraded lines and a FPR to bump the fuel pressure up a bit.

We have gone as high as 6-620whp on a single Walbro 400 pump and ID1000s with a higher base pressure on E85.


Bingo.

Great minds think and reply on the same level lol
2013-09-21 01:50:59
#12
This is interesting. Would I need to do any prep work for the switch to E85, or can I just drain the tank and fill it up with E85?

I've already got a Walbro 255lph, aeromotive fpr, AN -6 fuel lines connected to the hard lines on the firewall, and an inline filter with a screen. However, I've done nothing to the lines on the fuel tank.
Last edited by SR20? on 2013-09-21 at 01-54-22.
2013-09-21 02:00:54
#13
The lines are fine, just make sure you have enought injector. At least 33% more than you'll need for your goals on pump.
2013-09-21 02:13:59
#14
I have read many times on this forum that a log manifold on a sr20ve is bad and will not make power but looky what we have here.
2013-09-21 03:00:00
#15
Originally Posted by SR20GTi-R
Originally Posted by Vadim
Originally Posted by liljay781
so will i need to run 2 pumps or just the one


It looks like they are running a 255lph walbro, so no need for two pumps.


Close to 400whp you will run into big fueling issues on a single walbro on E85.

This car is closer to 340-350whp comparing it to a roller dyno.

Walbros are not E85 safe (except the 400). You also have to change your std fuel filter every 10 hours of run time or so.


Good to know.

10 hours on fuel filter?!? Does E85 eat away at the standard fuel filters material?

Originally Posted by Scrildo
I have read many times on this forum that a log manifold on a sr20ve is bad and will not make power but looky what we have here.


E85 cools the engine, heat is main issue with logs/bad flowing manifolds.
Last edited by Vadim on 2013-09-21 at 03-04-41.
2013-09-21 13:59:11
#16
Originally Posted by SR20?
This is interesting. Would I need to do any prep work for the switch to E85, or can I just drain the tank and fill it up with E85?

I've already got a Walbro 255lph, aeromotive fpr, AN -6 fuel lines connected to the hard lines on the firewall, and an inline filter with a screen. However, I've done nothing to the lines on the fuel tank.


What we normally do is disconnect the return line from the regulator and then run a line from the regulator to a gas can and start the car and let the car pump all the fuel out of the tank. You can get it down to where you hear the pumps start to change pitch (meaning it is running out of fuel).

Then simply put 5-10 gallons of E85 in it and start tuning! You need to make sure you double check your AFR after your first fill up with E85 and make sure it doesn't lean out on you (if you had a bunch of left over gas in the tank when you tuned it).

Originally Posted by Scrildo
I have read many times on this forum that a log manifold on a sr20ve is bad and will not make power but looky what we have here.


The only reason this made any kind of power is because of the E85, if you look at the pump gas tune you can tell it is definitely struggling to make decent power at the boost level it is at.

E85 does wonders on cars with flow restrictions in the turbine side of things and definitely helps the engine to be over all more heat efficient.
2013-09-21 18:20:02
#17
I've been running E85 for years with zero issues. Definitely made a big difference with my car.
2013-09-25 01:17:15
#18
So it is safe to just fillerup with e85? I thought it ate away at the old rubber and caused metal gas tanks to rust?
2013-09-25 01:51:58
#19
After having an SRT4 with E85, 28psi of boost on a 50 trim with just a very basic setup, it was making 450whp and over 500ft lbs of torque I just couldnt deny the facts. Tried to retune that same setup and boost level on 93 pump gas and just kept getting knock, that was with an 11.2:1 a/f ratio on pump, I would have had to take away soo much timing or lowered the boost to the point it wouldnt have made anywhere near the power. With the e85 i tuned it to 12.0-12.5:1 even under boost up top and zero knock.

Lets just say Ill be using e85 for street use with a 2.2L 12.5:1 comp 6262 VE and see how that goes
2013-09-25 01:56:45
#20
Vadim, as for the filter question, most fuel filters are made of a paper type material. E85 will eat away at that very quickly. Might look into an e85 compatible filter that will last a while. I know they make the inserts for the Weldon and other inline fuel filter units. Most e85 vehicles do not use any type of fuel filter other than whats on the inlet of the fuel pump.

Also if you have any original rubber hoses, you might want to consider changing them out with new fuel line. Most new fuel hose that is available now a days is e85 compatible.
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