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2012-08-10 14:20:53
#11
Originally Posted by Vadim
Originally Posted by wnwright
I'm brain dead here... but did the o-ring increase the spacing between the comp wheel and the housing? Could be a clearance issue.


When I first tried to install it it definitely did, but I didn't tighten it fully before. This time around I tightened all of the bolts that hold the brackets. It is sitting flush now. This is why I did another boost leak test, and there wasn't a drop of air leaking out of the comp housing. Before it would leak at 5 psi and it would be impossible to get up to 10psi while doing a boost leak test.


Wheel to housing clearance issue wouldn't show up in leak test...
2012-08-10 14:30:13
#12
^^this is very true too^^
2012-08-10 14:42:19
#13
Originally Posted by minair
my VET has the same turbo, and had this issue. Would hit hard and fall right off. installed aftermarket valve springs and problem solved. holdin 18psi straight to 8000rpm with an internal gate.


I take it your VE had the softer springs. Still seems odd, could be keeping the valves from closing and sealing all of the way.

I should mention, last time I did a boost leak test, my crank would get pressurized too. This time I made sure to check, and it was not leaking air into the crankcase. My valve seals are leaking, I will be replacing them soon and installing 20ve cams back.

Originally Posted by wnwright

Wheel to housing clearance issue wouldn't show up in leak test...


True, though I had pretty similar problem without the O-ring too though.
Last edited by Vadim on 2012-08-10 at 20-01-29.
2012-08-10 14:43:18
#14
Originally Posted by Vadim
I take it your VE had the software springs.


Wait.... what?
2012-08-10 14:44:35
#15
Originally Posted by Vadim
Originally Posted by wnwright

Wheel to housing clearance issue wouldn't show up in leak test...


True, though I had pretty similar problem without the O-ring too though.


Could still be housing and O-ring made it even worse... ?

Just thinking outside the circle. Butter to be safe than sorry.
2012-08-10 15:19:51
#16
Yes exactly, had OEM springs initially and would not hold boost. would hit 15psi and fall to about 10psi. this is with stock cams, if you have sr16's or n1's id imagine it would be worse. stiffer valve springs keep the valves from floating and hold the boost in the combustion chamber..especially with a smaller turbo. if you had a larger turbo like a 2871 or a 30r or somethin of that nature, you wouldn't get as much if any pressure drop.
2012-08-10 15:57:27
#17
Originally Posted by wnwright

Wait.... what?


VE's came with two different valve spring rates. Ones are safe to rev to 7,500 rpm, others start valve floating at 7,200 rpm on stock 20VE cams.

Originally Posted by minair
Yes exactly, had OEM springs initially and would not hold boost. would hit 15psi and fall to about 10psi. this is with stock cams, if you have sr16's or n1's id imagine it would be worse. stiffer valve springs keep the valves from floating and hold the boost in the combustion chamber..especially with a smaller turbo. if you had a larger turbo like a 2871 or a 30r or somethin of that nature, you wouldn't get as much if any pressure drop.


That might explain the instant pressure drop when doing the boost leak test past 10 psi too. Now my manifold is a lot less restrictive then the stock ones, but turbo is still fairly small.
2012-08-10 15:59:42
#18
Originally Posted by Vadim
That might explain the instant pressure drop when doing the boost leak test past 10 psi too.
Huh? The pressure is on the face of the valves, pushing them closed, not on the backside, therefore the springs aren't having any load at all imparted on them. No?

C
2012-08-10 16:06:10
#19
Originally Posted by Vadim
Originally Posted by wnwright

Wait.... what?


VE's came with two different valve spring rates. Ones are safe to rev to 7,500 rpm, others start valve floating at 7,200 rpm on stock 20VE cams.


But what does that have to do with software?
2012-08-10 18:09:50
#20
i agree Chriscar, pressure will always be lost somewhere doing a boost pressure leak test (crank case,exhaust) the test is to see if there are any immediate leaks like compressor,charge pipes, fittings you might hear leaking...but dont think theres any engines that would hold pressure 100% for the whole time. i was refering to while the engine is running and under boost from the turbo and pressure drop
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