Originally Posted by
P10FTW
Vadim, a VE in a P11 is not a waste of money. Something is just wrong with the car or your tuning is way off. I noticed that posted you had to subtract timing from a stock ve map. That right there should tell you something is off. Take the car to a decent tuner.
It's hard for me not to be biased about it, I'm fairly annoyed by it actually. I have another VE sitting on a pallet jack waiting to go into my wife's car. I'm contemplating on if I want to take a daily out of service... before I go back turbo or after...
Keep in mind I have more airflow then a stock VE engine. With more airflow you have to run less timing. Check out a SR16/N1 tune vs SR20VE one. The timing is less aggressive since you can hit your max torque with not as much of an advance.
Originally Posted by
SENTRASER What kinda spal fans have you guys used? I've narrowed it down to a couple diffrent ones, both 12":
VA10-AP50/C-61A SPAL USA
VA10-AP70/LL-61A SPAL USA
There is a marginal diffrence in the flow of the fans, but a $40 price diffrence and the bottom one is an 30mm thicker at the motor
area! Thanks guys....
Keep in mind the size of the shroud around the fans. SPAL measures fans at the blade level, not at the shroud level.
Like the first fan is 336mm tall and 321mm wide, or in American 13.2" tall and 12.6" wide. I didn't know SPAL did that and didnt look close enough to the actual spreadsheet. I ended up with two 13" fans, which are really 14" shroud wise. I could barely fit them on the B13 Koyo!
What I did is got a the thinnest SPAL for passenger side, and the 2.5" thicker one for the Driver side. Also check on eBay and Amazon, I got both of mine at around $100 shipped.
Fans and Radiator is the part that I always cheaped out on too, I've learned my less though. My wife is there to remind me with the story how it took us 15hours to drive on a 12 hour trip, Heater on full blast in 100*F weather
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I bought a G20 for a reason though, I didn't want to get a Maxima. So to me having ponies and AC is a big commodity.
The fan next to the downpipe melted because it was too close, I wrapped my down pipe with header wrap and bought the 2" SPAL. But the wires on the eBay fans are so thin that they melted on both fans.
Originally Posted by
gomba
Gotta love the G20's..stock fans fit! I'd definitely run stock fans if they would fit, but no luck on b14's way too tight w/turbo.
-G
Actually G20's have a little bit less space. Especially with the radiator not being under the radiator support.
Originally Posted by
b00stinG20t well heres the update i found out that the manifold melted the wire on one of my fans. that one then shorted out the other fan and no fans were spinning the whole time. we managed to get one of the fans to work but my mechanic think the motor may already be damaged. so probably gonna throw a boosted sr18 into the car and daily it and build something new
How hot did your motor get? Also Boosted SR18's are a waste of your time and will cost more then an Avenir!