Originally Posted by
rmyc 
if it was 450 for a tune thats awesome. but starting out at 450. i dunno about that. esp since it's my daily and i have already 5kmiles on my current tune and i just need to fix AFRs. It bothers me how tuners are unsure how much time they will need to tune. (english racing guarantee's their work; flat tuning charge) should take more than 4hrs to adjust the tune on a car.
I am sure that we went through this once already. If english is flat rate then go for it. My rates at trackforged are all flat rate. I spend the money to get the right treatment. My retunes are way cheap after the initial tune.
Reasons why tuners are unsure of how long it takes could be many reasons. I for once have seen some straight ghetto setups come on the dyno to where people keep swearing that the work was legit. There are many variables to why tuners dont say o yea ill get it done quick and it's guaranteed.
Sohc turbo civic came into get a full tune done. Fully built yada yada civic. Did all his own work at home. Came to get tuned, shit was all fucked up. He went ahead and blamed them for why his car was smoking, sounded like shit and why it just would run right. Forge have him discounted rates and turned out to be builders error with installing piston rings upside down...
Long story short, if you think its too expensive please by all means go find somewhere else to tune. Instead of trying to label a shop to a typically based price everywhere.
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