Thread: Think I went with too big of a turbo...

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Again im with coheed on this one. Gios and a few others have made great power because their cars were tuned properly. But their setups were still different in a couple ways than Vadims. Again We still dont know what Vadims car is making for power. So this whole last 6 pages of arguing could in fact be 100% pointless.

Nobody has posted up the results as much as Coheed when it comes to testing. You east coast guys can keep your crap to yourself all you want as that seems what most of you like to do.

And Andreas one of the big names in our community is stupid for using a JWT ecu on the 2.2L build that made 542whp on such a low boost level. Yeah go for it. Call him stupid. Fact is JWT and Calum spent years putting out these tuns. Yes different setups are gonna require slightly different timing numbers and so on. But nothing a move of the distributor cant handle. You guys are taking this tuning thing way too far.

Of course a finely tuned car will make slightly more, when in the 300whp range it wont be much though.

Bunch of pointless arguments. Coheeds car has put down great numbers at low boost levels. Just as good as any one of your east coast guys and he is at a much higher altitude. So hmm go figure. Hell my de motor with a Calum basic that i fine tuned a bit was putting a lot of you VET guys to shame and i was on a "crappy" ebay rwd manifold. lol. I just laugh.

And i will place a wadger on this. I would pay 50 bucks to anyone that thinks they can take vadims car dyno it with how he has it set up and then "work their magic" and make an additional 50+whp just by someone tuning it and boost level stay the same. hahahahahaha

Not a fat chance in hell.

But I will bet 50 bucks that swapping in the VET cams as coheed has mentioned and tuning it accordingly will make 50whp over what its making now with the same boost level.

Anyone want to take me up on it. Anyone? I doubt it.

Noone will take you up on it because I already documented the gains :P

No tuning necessary

But here is the car last year on 22psi iirc. I had the boost set as high as it would go, but the boost wouldn't hit because there wasn't enough load on the dynomite dyno.



I'm making the same power (421whp) as the G20 VVL. Even though I am running 22psi, and he ran 16psi. He has 9:1 compression. I have 8.5:1. Both tubular manifolds. I am running a smaller 1.06 TS housing on my 3076r, he was running a .82 on his 60-1. He has a HONDA distributor and tuned using a HONDA computer, by a honda tuner. All this "better" equipment meant that he could make the same power on 6psi less boost. But on the street and at the strip.... no contest. Even with his better tune, higher compression, bigger turbo... The SEL is still a lot faster where it counts.

But I bet if I ran a similar sized turbo with a T350 turbine, I would make more power. And that's what I plan to do. GTX35R on low boost may be the next step for me. But when that happens I will make over 500whp on 20psi.

Eh yours were on a higher boost level. 12psi dyno the car with Vadims final settings where he feels is right. Give car over to someone on here that thinks they can make 50whp over what his car is making now at the same boost level, same pump gas fuel. Win 50 bucks.

I think Vadim knows the right direction to go which is why he is looking for the VET cams. You know why, because they are proven to work and be more efficient.

Yes someone could probably tune his car and work their magic and maybe make 15-20whp more at most. But fact is the setup is still very inefficient and a proper cam can take care of most of that. What is soo hard to understand about that concept. They dont make turbo cams that gain massive power for no freakin reason. Cam specs are just as important on a turbo car as the tune.

Lol.

I would but I just don't have it in me.

I wish all you guys the best.

Jaimie, im not doubting you have worked your magic on some cars. But we are not talking about cars that have a base tune in it or was worked on by some who doesnt know at least somewhat of what they are doing. Im sure a lot of the cars you got in and bumped power up greatly on were probably for one, running like absolute crap or two running like crap because the previous guy didnt know what the hell he was doing. This isnt the case with Vadim. He does know what he is doing. He might not have quite the knowledge that some of you guys have about what he can get away with on his tune but he does know quite a bit.

To say you can make 50whp more than what his car currently makes, keeping boost levels the same is retarded and very discrediting to Vadim who again has studied, tried, and tested his tunes trying to make it as efficient as possible without causing problems. Your downplaying his skills very much so, he knows more about tuning than most on this forum so yeah.

Umm... You forget I was in El Paso with the setup before moving to the east coast??? There is maybe a difference of 500ft elevation AT MOST between where you are, and where I was. Again, 400whp on 1bar pump (yes, 91 octane). Just a boring non TS turbo with no VVL to speak of.

I can point you to about twenty different posts where we say it's the tune, and maybe 5 that say it isn't. The law of averages wins here, not logic.


And as for Ashton and his retarded comment: Calum hasn't put out a single tune. He's a hardware guy and CLEARLY states that. His tunes are nothing more than JWT-esque. They ballpark you so that YOU have to do the work to get the car running 100%.

Oh and another retarded comment by Ashton: Discrediting and retarded towards Vadim? We try to give him advice and you immediately jump to the conclusion that it's hardware, and not software.

Oh and +1000000 internets to Jamie. Agreed that more info gets passed around under the table than in front of folks around here.

Ya'll "veterans of VET" make me laugh. Veterans don't break shit on the 1/4mi. after only a few pulls. SMDH.

In any case, you should feel the VVL kick a lot harder than it does. You should Feel it. Period. Vadim is hearing it kick, with no real movement of power.

Again Cliff you might think its retarded but whatever. My bet still stands for anyone willing to take it.

I broke on my current setup because i rushed some things and didnt take precautions not on my simple 60 trim setup. Again get that straight, which for as simple as it was put most of the VE-T's on here to shame on a DE with cams, lol. So lets get that one straigh. Yeah, Calums tunes were generics of JWT but JWT put years of development into the tune so that not much else had to be done to have the car run great.

Again we are talking about Vadim tuning a Realtime ECU. Not a base calibration or a car with other problems causing it to run bad. lol. You are discrediting vadim by saying one thing that its only his tune that is wrong and nothing else. Its not just advice anymore.

Again, take me up on the bet, Anyone? Because what your claiming is not gonna happen. However what Coheed has proven would happen if Vadim goes that route. Just sayin. Im out