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Thread: Innovate LC1 wideband issues. Can anyone help??

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2011-07-07 19:47:54
#11
Originally Posted by Boostlee
Hmmmm, let me look into this........


not all versions of windows 7 have the xp mode. I know pro and ultimate have it. My belkin usb to serial works with windows 7. I also have a dynex that I got from bestbuy that works as well.
2011-07-07 19:54:37
#12
Well, I figured I could run XP, but since I do not feel like flipping back and forth, I opted out of this option

However, I DID purchase a new DB9 to USB cable with the FTDI chip and windows 7 capability........Should be here tomorrow.

We will see then how it everything shakes out!!
2011-07-07 20:01:55
#13
it's not flipping back in forth, it's more like a remote desktop in 7, I can use 7 and both xp at the same time.

if you need, I have w7 Ultimate.
2011-07-07 21:33:42
#14
If you open LM programmer, you got to power cycle the LC1 in order to connect to LW3. By the way, LW3 is compatible with Windows 7, thats how I have it.
2011-07-08 14:02:41
#15
Keo, I will contact you later and let you know if I need Ultimate. The updated cable should be here sometime today and I will try to complete the install sometime this evening.

Thanks
2011-07-08 14:31:02
#16
Originally Posted by Keo
it's not flipping back in forth, it's more like a remote desktop in 7, I can use 7 and both xp at the same time.
It has a name. It's called a VM (Virtual Machine). "XP Mode" is simply VM software (in this case Windows Virtual PC) loaded with an operating system installation (in this case, Windows XP).

To be on topic... The ECU grounds terminate at two small bolts on the intake manifold. Also, grounding the wires to the specific spots Innovate describes in important to the calibration of the device. If you do the free-air calibration with one wire setup, but permanently wire it up to a different place the readings will be off by a good bit. The Innovate software might have a way to tune this out? I don't know.
2011-07-08 14:36:16
#17
Ben, if I recall, did you not install an innovate your self?? I do remember the wiring (and inherent "mess" as you call it) when you installed the LED.

If so, what issues did you encounter??

The more I am reading the more I am realizing that my cable and associated drivers might be the issue (I am reading this over at the Innovate forums).
2011-07-08 15:01:12
#18
I did install an Innovate LC1. Things were a tiny bit more complicated than I usually like with the LED and the button and the free-air calibration. However I followed the directions, and everything seemed to work fine. I did all that with alligator clips and stuff though. No way was I going to wire that crap in permanently (even though I know you're supposed to recalibrate every 6 months or something). I don't recall if you can even leave things wired like that or not. So I simplified things and just went with the essentials once I was done with the calibration.

I never tried to connect to the Innovate controller with a laptop using the provided serial connection and software. I have absolutely no desire to fuck around with that shit. Nor did I buy a gauge for viewing. Not my thing.

I took the analog 0-5v wideband data wire and wired it into the corresponding pin on the AEM EMS. I verified the AEM was reading the data correctly and I was in business.

Oh, and I ALWAYS use a laptop with a real life, proper serial port. I can't stand trying to screw around with USB-to-Serial adapters and drivers and shit. I've only ever heard horror stories. =/
(Look for older machines for dirt cheap on eBay, or buy a brand new business class Dell laptop for $1,000-$2,000 with real serial port.)

Sorry I'm not really any help. =(
Last edited by BenFenner on 2011-07-08 at 15-04-51.
2011-07-08 16:10:48
#19
No Ben, you have been MORE than helpful!!

The more I am reading, the more I am realizing people share your EXACT sentiments about serial - USB connectivity and drivers...........It all just seems to either
a) Not end well or
b) not end well or
c) You get lucky
2011-07-08 17:32:33
#20
you can get a dell d620 or d630 for around $300 on ebay. I have been looking into them because they still have a serial port and come loaded with xp. I have the same laptop for work and it takes a beating.
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