Originally Posted by
randomdude ^wow, it really sits that much lower!?! crazy.
so the avenir is further out towards front, but the gtir doesnt stick out, but is lower?
and the avenir flows more than BB, and the gtir flows most of all?
just trying to learn my stock manifolds here. thanks guys!
Well on my B14 even the Avenir didn't let me use the stock B14 mount. P11 has a big front mount, same size as the rear mount.
It's more of an angle that the manifold makes the turbo sit at. I think GTiR might be same as Avenir.
I think Avenir and BB flow the same amount.
Get a GtiR if you can, otherwise and Avenir.