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2011-03-10 03:22:04
#41
Originally Posted by Rodrigo
What make you think the roller rocker is weak ?


The fact that the ring lands are physically much thinner. Not much to think about.
2011-03-10 03:24:46
#42
Originally Posted by wnwright
The fact that the ring lands are physically much thinner. Not much to think about.


My RR DE has seen boost since they day it replaced my original SR20 in my
B14 , never a issue. well i lie , i replaced the starter , alternator and head temp sensor in 4 years of it being boosted.
2011-03-10 03:37:52
#43
i would at least put a girdle in. Buddy of mine boost his ve and threw the rods out
2011-03-10 03:39:58
#44
Originally Posted by Rodrigo
My RR DE has seen boost since they day it replaced my original SR20 in my
B14 , never a issue. well i lie , i replaced the starter , alternator and head temp sensor in 4 years of it being boosted.


So what?

I ran boosted RR for years also. Who f'n cares. The fact is they have thinner ring lands and are weaker. Doesn't mean they can't be boosted and run.
2011-03-10 03:55:31
#45
Originally Posted by XxToKeSxX
No... that still spools too fast. I mean step away from the t2 sized turbos... look into a super 60, sc61, gt30, something that will spool later, especially if you go VE-T. That way it will drive like an na car when you feather and boost a little later.


outta curiosity how fast would it start to spool rpm wise, because i have the same idea of a gtir t28 ve-t but i have 20v cams which would wake the turbo up quicker, is my theory correct
2011-03-10 04:07:55
#46
Originally Posted by wnwright
So what?

I ran boosted RR for years also. Who f'n cares. The fact is they have thinner ring lands and are weaker. Doesn't mean they can't be boosted and run.



1.So what , is... RR can hold low boost and be ok .

2. ok thinner rings , you boosted it ran fine right! it will work granted you dont run 20psi .

regardless , dont act the part of the internet tough guy and ruin this thread.
2011-03-10 04:15:29
#47
Originally Posted by Vadim
It has more potential, but I don't care about beak hp .

And yes, I can go get a prius, but they are boring to drive. I just need good gas mileage when I don't gun it. Which now days is 80% of the time. Probably because I have a slow car to begin with...



The only thing that sucks is the P11 is fat, so VE will be an upgrade from stock, but no where near a B13/B14 on VVL. But if you, a boost person, enjoyed it then I might just go that route .




DET rods/pistons would be good enough. Thing is I don't want this to become into a major money pit/project. Just about everyone I know that went that deep ditched their cars. You just have to draw the line, because if you make a mistake and you have to rebuild that expensive setup, all motivation is gone .

I've been thinking about this and am thinking maybe I should just forget going turbo, just go VE with a few mods and call it a day


To be honest it's more bang for ur buck . Sell the det engine and still come out around 500 bucks if that out of pocket. Trying to think about gas mileage with a vet would be hard to do lol it's like having someone on ur shoulder tapping u say do it ... Floor it and once u do u just realized u wasted a half a tank and 30 minutes with a smile and a boner lol

To me the prius does more harm then good. Yeah it gets great gas mileage but it take more energy to recycle the car properly. People that think it's making a difference to buy one r retarded. I did a warranty claim on a civic hybrid for batteries .... 7000.00 and the repair was worth more then the car

Originally Posted by Keo
boost a prius!


Lmoa it would still be slower then a stock de
2011-03-10 04:15:50
#48
so if it can be boosted and run, it may be technically weaker, but strong enough?

a guy in KC has a boosted B14 with a RR motor and runs 18psi..
2011-03-10 04:21:30
#49
Originally Posted by vqman
so if it can be boosted and run, it may be technically weaker, but strong enough?

a guy in KC has a boosted B14 with a RR motor and runs 18psi..



precisely my dear Holmes !

most of us in the sr20 game have boosted DE's and put them to the test and have held up till we push their boundries .

My friend that passed away Danilo RIP hit 500hp on a DE block on boost and spray and did a few pulls at that high HP, before the tranny gave up , i think it was around 502hp

Gio did the tuning on his car .
Last edited by Rodrigo on 2011-03-10 at 05-47-20.
2011-03-10 04:45:24
#50
Originally Posted by 96_b14
why not just boost the DE with a medium sized t3 turbo? gas milage won't be bad all should be reliable and have power for when you want it.


I don't want to spend any more cash then I already have. It's really comes to a point where you have to draw the line, or you sleep on the leather couch... errr p11 back seats .

Originally Posted by Rodrigo

No issues whatsoever . The RR engines are nice except for the weak cam shaft selection .


Well that and the super awesomely strong rocker springs!

Originally Posted by vqman
for what you're wanting, go VE.
it will require less stress on the turbo to get the same power out of a DE-T or DET, or if you want more power.. add more boost.


Exactly what I'm thinking, I love boost, but I want to use the least amount possible. I feel like it's the most reliable way to go for a DD.

This is why I have other mods that help power in small numbers but help overall, pulleys, flow stack, thermoblock spacers, now external gated wastegate.

I also invested in some traction bars, since going solid motor mounts and full suspension is out of question.

Originally Posted by Keo
boost a prius!


It's a lost cause... it still would get crappy gas mileage .

Originally Posted by Bahamassr20
i would at least put a girdle in. Buddy of mine boost his ve and threw the rods out


I'm tempted, I might when I'm tapping the block.

Originally Posted by Pr
To be honest it's more bang for ur buck . Sell the det engine and still come out around 500 bucks if that out of pocket. Trying to think about gas mileage with a vet would be hard to do lol it's like having someone on ur shoulder tapping u say do it ... Floor it and once u do u just realized u wasted a half a tank and 30 minutes with a smile and a boner lol


I would sell it, but I can't easily ship it. So it might be better off just laying around for parts for the VE eventually .

Keep in mind when I highway drive I don't really hit boost much. I usually drive with cruise control at 70-75mph. Also daily driving I don't go above 40mph. I got a short 4 mile trip, no space to really floor it. I need a slow daily and a weekend warier hidden


Originally Posted by vqman
so if it can be boosted and run, it may be technically weaker, but strong enough?

a guy in KC has a boosted B14 with a RR motor and runs 18psi..


It all depends on timing, how good your gas is and how hot the day is. I personally ran the DET fairly lean when I had some issues without any problems. It's a tank. It's nice to have that kind of safety, but I guess it's not needed.

Originally Posted by Rodrigo
precisely my dear Holmes !

most of us in the sr20 game have boosted DE's and put them to the test and have held up till we push their boundries .

My friend that passed away Danilo RIP hit 500hp on a DE block on boost and spray and did a few pulls at that high HP, Dyno sheets and all to prove


RIP indeed, those are some good numbers too
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