Thread: VE+T or DET

Maybe I need to upgrade to something a little bigger. This 17-20mpg crap is getting old with these gas prices! Sucks you're getting rid of that intake V, I was interested in hearing what you thought of it.

After getting my first ride in a VE last weekend, I would definitely put my vote on going the VE+T route. It was such a fun ride, I can see lots of potential with boost.

Nope, I'm concerned about the weaker piston rings. My goal is to run 6psi but reliably. I would hate to get stranded 2-12 hours away from home.

i see, why not spurge on some eagle rods and forged pistons and rings?

This is what I'm talking about. And open up the manifold a little bit somehow. Maybe an asp manifold or something from mazworx. What you want is the possibility to cruise off boost on the hwy at ~70.

I know in the scoob I can get 24mpg at that speed but it spools even if I give it just a little gas and that takes its toll. Still researching the upgrades but a few more mpg will be part of the equation with gobs of additional power being the main goal.

It has more potential, but I don't care about beak hp .

And yes, I can go get a prius, but they are boring to drive. I just need good gas mileage when I don't gun it. Which now days is 80% of the time. Probably because I have a slow car to begin with...



The only thing that sucks is the P11 is fat, so VE will be an upgrade from stock, but no where near a B13/B14 on VVL. But if you, a boost person, enjoyed it then I might just go that route .




DET rods/pistons would be good enough. Thing is I don't want this to become into a major money pit/project. Just about everyone I know that went that deep ditched their cars. You just have to draw the line, because if you make a mistake and you have to rebuild that expensive setup, all motivation is gone .

I've been thinking about this and am thinking maybe I should just forget going turbo, just go VE with a few mods and call it a day

Vadim im keeping the VE with stock internals.
VEs can hold boost like DE's with better numbers.

you dont need to change the internals if you plan on staying in the high 290-300hp range,

if you want to go higher then i do suggest the piston, rings and rods upgrade.

I thought they where as weak as LollerRockers. I guess at low boost, under 10 psi, just about any engine should have no problems aye?

why not just boost the DE with a medium sized t3 turbo? gas milage won't be bad all should be reliable and have power for when you want it.

What make you think the roller rocker is weak ?

My Roller rocker in my B14 has been boosted for 4 years daily boost of 9-10 psi low boost for 4 years and often sees 14psi- 15 spike on high boost .


No issues whatsoever . The RR engines are nice except for the weak cam shaft selection .

for what you're wanting, go VE.
it will require less stress on the turbo to get the same power out of a DE-T or DET, or if you want more power.. add more boost.

boost a prius!