I think I am going to buy a complete VE now ....and use my det crank and forged pistong and such in it ...I am hoping to do this for under 5k , that is my limit right aprox my limit to get it up and running , I already have the turbo ,wastgate , BOV ( thanx DAXX) and I have a LOVEFAB turbo manifold owed to me, and I have a clutch and all supporting mods so I hope I can get this together before our baby gets here in JULY as how my wife put it , lets get it done , how much is it going to take ? As she ask's as I take a deep breath and cringe ...it aint going to be cheap not at this point in , I have deffintly gone in deep now !!!