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2010-06-03 04:56:59
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Major problem with t25 install
I ran the car for the a day all motor (no i/c piping hooked up to the outlet pipe) just to make sure my oil feed, coolant feed and drains were working fine. Everything seemed normal except for some smoke when at the higher rpms. I thought the smoke was from the open exhaust and since it wasn't present at idle or when cruising I didn't pay much mind to it. Today I hooked up the i/c piping and took it for a spin.

The car made boost but it felt like weak. The boost gauge didn't even pass 0 inches of vacuum. Drove it around the block, had a coupler pop off so I pulled over and put it back on. Went back for a drive and again it's not boosting like it should, it feels weak. I get to a stop sign and the whole car gets flooded with smoke but it smelled like exhaust gas (running rich). A few more blocks and I hear another "POP" sound when I shifted. It sounded like another coupler, the turbo was still spooling but not making boost.

When I pulled over I saw oil all over the valve cover (where the gasket would be), oil in random places in the engine bay, on the exhaust flex pipe, on the turbo itself, on my radiator fans etc.. It was probably about 1/2 quart of oil. I checked the dipstick and it had oil in the motor so I assumed the oil drain somehow managed to pop loose. I looked under the car and it's on there secure and looked dry .

I ran the car for a bit to see if it was still dripping on idle and it wasn't so I slowly drove it home and it felt fine. No smoking at idle.

So WTF happened? Is the turbo shot being that it only smokes when making boost? Too much crankcase pressure? Oil drain backing up? (although wouldn't the oil drain line have residue if that was the case?). When I mounted everything I used a piece of clear hose to make sure the oil was draining properly and it was but how much faster does the oil flow when it's in boost compared to running all motor?
2010-06-03 05:11:42
#2
Is this the first time being boosted? I guess the engine worked fine before the T25, oil by the PCV sometimes is low compression symptom

Is the PCV being under boost?

Engine bay shot would help
2010-06-03 05:22:10
#3
Originally Posted by kevo
Is this the first time being boosted? I guess the engine worked fine before the T25, oil by the PCV sometimes is low compression symptom

Is the PCV being under boost?

Engine bay shot would help


The engine was working perfectly fine before the turbo kit was put on and it's never been boosted before. The area around the pcv valve looks dry. Most of the oil looks like it's in the area at the front of the valve cover right above the manifold and there is oil in the area of the oil pans and the exhaust flex had some oil leaking from it also. I haven't had the time to get under there yet but the oil drain and feed both look dry.
2010-06-03 05:27:15
#4
Originally Posted by FuLLah
The engine was working perfectly fine before the turbo kit was put on and it's never been boosted before. The area around the pcv valve looks dry. Most of the oil looks like it's in the area at the front of the valve cover right above the manifold and there is oil in the area of the oil pans and the exhaust flex had some oil leaking from it also. I haven't had the time to get under there yet but the oil drain and feed both look dry.


May be the oil feed line, the one hooked to the block...

The thread is like BNPT and most of the plumbing connections found at a local store will be NPT, is not the same thread...
2010-06-03 05:30:55
#5
I'm using the Nisport adapter with a stainless steel line. I had a downpipe made today so someone was working in that general area with a welder. Hopefully they didn't **** something up. I guess I'll find out in the morning when I get under there.

Man this is such a downer too I was looking forward to seeing what this snail can do.
2010-06-03 05:32:44
#6
Sounds like to me your "fastest turbo install time" failed... haha




Chris.
2010-06-03 05:40:29
#7
Originally Posted by 91B13DET
Sounds like to me your "fastest turbo install time" failed... haha
Chris.

Don't be a dick. As I said in the other thread it was for discussion. It wasn't about who could do a half assed install it was about who had skills to pull the task off in a certain time frame.
2010-06-03 05:43:10
#8
Look, take your time at what you do. Ensure that you do the correct thing in all corners,

don't rush, don't cut your corners. You would not have these issues if you didnt do any of

the things i just said. Lesson learned. Hope you fix your problems.





Chris.
2010-06-03 05:47:04
#9
Originally Posted by 91B13DET
Look, take your time at what you do. Ensure that you do the correct thing in all corners,

don't rush, don't cut your corners. You would not have these issues if you didnt do any of

the things i just said. Lesson learned. Hope you fix your problems.
Chris.


Just stop posting nonsense for the love of god. Explain to me what corners I cut that caused me to have this issue. I've read every single turbo thread on this forum and I've never see anyone having this issue so for you to say it's a result of cutting corners is nonsense. Since you seem to know it all, tell me what the cause of the problem is and what the solution is.

I didn't put together my car in 1 hour, it's been down all week while I installed this kit so I did take my time with this install.
2010-06-03 06:02:34
#10
Originally Posted by FuLLah
I ran the car for the a day all motor (no i/c piping hooked up to the outlet pipe) just to make sure my oil feed, coolant feed and drains were working fine. Everything seemed normal except for some smoke when at the higher rpms. Why would you do this...? I thought the smoke was from the open exhaust and since it wasn't present at idle or when cruising I didn't pay much mind to it. Why would you not pay attention from a smoke coming from the bay? Today I hooked up the i/c piping and took it for a spin. Should have done this from the start

The car made boost but it felt like weak. The boost gauge didn't even pass 0 inches of vacuum. If the car made boost then your gauge should have read above 0 unless it's broke.Drove it around the block, had a coupler pop off so I pulled over and put it back on. Next time i would not use worm clamps ( almost positive that what you used right? ) Went back for a drive and again it's not boosting like it should, it feels weak. You haven't fixed the first problems why would you take the car out again?I get to a stop sign and the whole car gets flooded with smoke but it smelled like exhaust gas (running rich). How do you know it was flooded? Smelled like exhaust fumes due to you running open DP. A few more blocks and I hear another "POP" sound when I shifted. It sounded like another coupler, the turbo was still spooling but not making boost. What do you mean "spooling"?

When I pulled over I saw oil all over the valve cover (where the gasket would be), oil in random places in the engine bay, on the exhaust flex pipe, on the turbo itself, on my radiator fans etc.. It was probably about 1/2 quart of oil. How do you have the crankcase breather hooked up?I checked the dipstick and it had oil in the motor so I assumed the oil drain somehow managed to pop loose. I looked under the car and it's on there secure and looked dry . If the oil return came off, you would have dumped the oil so fast you would have known for sure...

I ran the car for a bit to see if it was still dripping on idle and it wasn't so I slowly drove it home and it felt fine. No smoking at idle.

So WTF happened? Is the turbo shot being that it only smokes when making boost? Shaft play? Oil seals? Needs rebuilt?Too much crankcase pressure? Oil drain backing up? It's not backing up...(although wouldn't the oil drain line have residue if that was the case?). When I mounted everything I used a piece of clear hose to make sure the oil was draining properly and it was but how much faster does the oil flow when it's in boost compared to running all motor?
Take that hose off and use either a SS line or a high temp oil line.




Chris.
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