Thread: H-town...We're Different :V. A2W IC setup 1000HP ;)

your right dudeman i was completely wrong

I was criticizing him because he made it seem like his setup was the best and he is trying to sell it at that crazy price.

I would rather see a cost effective setup that gets the job done than somebody coming on here bragging about a shop that he believes to be far superior to other peoples work and abality

Thanks for all the positive comments, Yes there is going to lots of data logs, and the civic I posted the video of, has already had them done. I'll see if I can get some of the print outs and videos.

The price for the setup was including the BOV, couplers, T-bolts, labor to install, test fit, the ports for the IAC hose, and also bungs and fittings all welded on. $800 included all that and labor to weld it?

$1600 is alot, but who cares? The man built the car how he wants. It's a great setup and will blow pretty much any air-air intercooler setup out of the water. So why is everyone getting their panties in a bunch???

Keep in mind that if your draw through you need at least 18" of piping before the turbo inlet. Not having that 18" will cause turbalance in the MAF, thus faulty readings, thus negating the power output you could have gained with that A2W setup.


Another thing, keep in mind that we are a tight crowd, and a lot of times don't sugarcoat our opinions. I think you wouldn't be getting as much lip if you didn't advertise this setup to be SUPER AWESOME, which it isn't for that price.

I'm doing a draw through design, not blow through, I'll switch to a standalone when the time comes and go MAP. And the reason I decided to go with this setup is because down in Houston, the humiditiy and temp gets over 120 degrees in the summer, not to mention that it really never gets dry cold weather. Like today... 49 degrees and rainy. Intake temps on air to water have been seen to reach 65 degrees in the texas heat. I'm sure if someone who has researched these setups before can chime in. CFM is far superior to the huge air to air intercoolers most ppl run. 300 CFM vs 500+CFM. But mostly, I just want to keep it simple and not have to worry about ppl stealing the car or me driving and damaging the intercooler setup when the car is only 4 inches off the ground.

I have less than $400 into my A2W setup. Granted its not on the car yet, as I dont have all of the parts for the setup to be dropped in yet, but still. Good Lord bro, $1600 is WAAAAAAY too much.

Mine is also a Spearco core A2W intercooler. I pay for quality as well, but I don't hemorrhage money needlessly.

Guess I'll chime in...

Sure, you have humid temps, but I lived in El Paso for a grand total of 8 years from 2000 until present (some time spent in Corpus).

I've seen MORE than a fair share of 110~115 summer temps, and at 4000ft. elevation, your car will SUFFER. I ran a simple bar and plate intercooler and never once had any issues with high intake temps. I only had overheating due to faults of my own, that were easily corrected. Granted this is only on a 30r with less than 1bar of boost, 300+ untuned whp at the time was still nothing to sneeze at, and I didn't need an A2C intercooler to acheive what I wanted.

Just food for thought. Some here don't really worry about costs, but we're not going to throw money at something that isn't REALLY necessary. Hell talk with Ashton in Yuma. He's got one hell of a car and he sees temps higher than I have, and doesn't worry about A2C setups.

lol, yep, here in yuma we see 125+ in the summer time. We had several days this year up that high and for a good month we saw nothing less than 115 deg.

I ran my current setup with my half wide civic radiator dual thickness though and never had a single overheating problem or problems with heat soak. My 32X12X4" fmic did the job more than plenty even in the summer heat. Yeah i might not see 65 deg intake temps during a 110 deg day. But who cares. Who is gonna be punching it in the middle of the day (even though i did occasionally) as they are driving home from work or whatever.

I rarely ever got on my car in the middle of the day. I would get on it early in the morning on the way to work or in the evenings. Very rarely in the middle of a hot summer day.

I dont think its worth the money your asking. Its a nice simple setup that again will do pretty well at keeping intake temps low. But i can tell you this. Right now when its in the low 40's out in the nightime. When i race my car on the strip i can guarantee you with the fmic im using and factoring in wind chill my intake temps will stay darn close to the ambient temp if not dead on. No need for a water to air then. 40 deg intake temps are plenty cold enough.

Thats my two cents.

LOL and after reading the entire thread i have a bit more to touch up on.

David:

Quality? How is your W2A any more quality than a properly done front mount. I have 5 pipes on my entire FMIC setup. If i were to go and get them welded it would be 3 pipes. My Intercooler is mounted cleanly and its high enough not to damage anything. i cut my bumper to one allow more airflow through it and two to fit it on the bottom. A sunny front bumper will solve that problem on the bottom which i plan to do later down the road.

Again you come on here saying how great your intercooler is. Congrats on spending the money you did on it. I spent a total of 250 bucks on my 3" piping kit with reinforced couplers and t bolts. and the 32X12X4 intercooler. I made 461whp,391wtq on 24psi on a 90 deg day. I am now around the 550whp, 475wtq range. Again all on a $250 intercooler setup that i dont constantly have to drain the water and refill with ice water if you really want to benifit from it. I just drive and go with no worries.

Again in the summer time who is really gonna get on it during the middle of the day like full out race during the middle of the day, nobody, not even im that wild. ive punched it in a gear or two in the middle of the day but again my tune is good and it still makes perfect power on my nice simple fmic setup.

Again like everyone else on here has already said. That setup is nowhere near worth that price. Again most of us on here are cheapskates so they are not going to pay that money for an intercooler. And hell cheap has worked just fine for 99% of us that do it that way.

BTW lol i lived in houston for 5 months and all i saw there is ghetto cars with ghetto parts on 99.9% of the cars ive seen there. Hell most are all just wanna be gangstas that are all into getting into fights over crap about crap on their cars and whos crap is faster. All to get smoked by the humble simple setups. Watched it over and over at the races. Again of course there are the nice cars. Every where has them. But i swear i have yet to see more ghetto anywhere ive lived than in Houston. Not to mention the bagged chevy trucks dragging their crap on the freeway. Boring, lame, and ghetto.

My old setup was shorter and my current setup is shorter, however, I run standalone with a map sensor now so no maf to worry about. My IC was a spearco core of the same size with custome endtanks and it was about $500 all said and done. You can buy an ebay water to air unit and have the endtanks modified and spend all of $275 on it ( i have done that also and no issues). Shop around people!!!

Brent