Hey Stratton I hope you don't mind me chiming in.
Adding an intake manifold would get you 300 WHP at less boost, and maybe 310 or 320 at the same boost, but you won't see the massive gains others might who have a turbo with room to grow.
A head gasket seems entirely unnecessary. *shrug*
Also, the VE head part is out of left field. You don't want to change your charge pipes or down pipe but you'll put on a VE head?
I too wouldn't spend the money on a custom manifold. The stock manifolds unmodified are good for 400-500 WHP with the proper turbo. Bore one out and/or extrude hone it and it'll be even easier to get there. No need to change the downpipe or charge pipes.
I completely see where these guys are coming from. I would agree, at the least, you should drive it around and enjoy it for a year or so before doing anything else to it. Take a break, relax, enjoy the car. Really think about what the expense of the project will be in time, money, temp. loss of car, loss of traction when you're done, etc.
As for the lack of traction, even if you don't do anything else, you should consider progressive boost with an electronic boost controller (now you'll have three boxes instead of just one...). Boost by gear, speed, rpm, throttle position, etc. can work wonders.
He's right. At the end of the day it's up to you.
Originally Posted by STRATTON
im thinking a 02 intake mani or something similiar will yeild huge gains, at the same psi, on my t28.
am i correct in assuming this ?
I have yet to push my T28 as far as it'll go and there may be much more to it than most people think. However, everyone typically agrees it really starts to struggle past 300 WHP and above 330 WHP it is running a marathon with an elephant on it's back.im thinking a 02 intake mani or something similiar will yeild huge gains, at the same psi, on my t28.
am i correct in assuming this ?
Adding an intake manifold would get you 300 WHP at less boost, and maybe 310 or 320 at the same boost, but you won't see the massive gains others might who have a turbo with room to grow.
Originally Posted by STRATTON
-headgasket and bigger turbo
-headgasket ve head
-headgasket ve head bigger turbo
i think i im leaning towards head gasket and a bigger turbo. something like 718r bolts right on some head studs and make 380whp all day.
-headgasket and bigger turbo
-headgasket ve head
-headgasket ve head bigger turbo
i think i im leaning towards head gasket and a bigger turbo. something like 718r bolts right on some head studs and make 380whp all day.
A head gasket seems entirely unnecessary. *shrug*
Also, the VE head part is out of left field. You don't want to change your charge pipes or down pipe but you'll put on a VE head?
Originally Posted by STRATTON
i can in no way justify a 1000 equal length mani that isnt going to put out much more power, when im only running a 718r you know. plus id have to change my intercooler pipe set up wich i love, along with my dp etc etc.
just trying to keep it fairly simple with proven parts and a few tricks here and their .
Fairly simple with proven parts is an idea I can get behind. I feel like we're in a similar situation with out cars (except yours runs). Both with T28s and both wanting more power, but both wanting to keep it simple.i can in no way justify a 1000 equal length mani that isnt going to put out much more power, when im only running a 718r you know. plus id have to change my intercooler pipe set up wich i love, along with my dp etc etc.
just trying to keep it fairly simple with proven parts and a few tricks here and their .
I too wouldn't spend the money on a custom manifold. The stock manifolds unmodified are good for 400-500 WHP with the proper turbo. Bore one out and/or extrude hone it and it'll be even easier to get there. No need to change the downpipe or charge pipes.
Originally Posted by Payu
If I were you just get someone to do a good port to the OEM manifold and get a T2 .86 GT3071 and (port the EX housing and the O2 dump)and get the biggest intercooler setup you can get on the NX an a retune on the dyno with your JWT setup and you have a solid 400whp car...
You already have cams rigth??
This is basically my advice too if you want to make more power, but maybe do the GT2871R. 400-450 WHP shouldn't be a problem.If I were you just get someone to do a good port to the OEM manifold and get a T2 .86 GT3071 and (port the EX housing and the O2 dump)and get the biggest intercooler setup you can get on the NX an a retune on the dyno with your JWT setup and you have a solid 400whp car...
You already have cams rigth??
Originally Posted by Benito
That's really good man. I say next mod is sit back and enjoy it.
That's really good man. I say next mod is sit back and enjoy it.
Originally Posted by morgans432
300 is perfect for the streets anything above that is fun and not completely neccesary.
300 is perfect for the streets anything above that is fun and not completely neccesary.
I completely see where these guys are coming from. I would agree, at the least, you should drive it around and enjoy it for a year or so before doing anything else to it. Take a break, relax, enjoy the car. Really think about what the expense of the project will be in time, money, temp. loss of car, loss of traction when you're done, etc.
Originally Posted by STRATTON
it needs to be faster though.
although having absolutely no traction in first and second and into third really sucks !
If it needs to be faster, you're basically a turbo (and supporting fuel) away from that goal. Do you have a B13/B14 transmission? If so, I wouldn't even think about more power until you upgrade to a P11/B15.it needs to be faster though.
although having absolutely no traction in first and second and into third really sucks !
As for the lack of traction, even if you don't do anything else, you should consider progressive boost with an electronic boost controller (now you'll have three boxes instead of just one...). Boost by gear, speed, rpm, throttle position, etc. can work wonders.
He's right. At the end of the day it's up to you.