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2009-09-03 19:07:59

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No, it doesn't. Daily driving a 400+whp monster is no big deal.

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2009-09-03 19:09:06

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Originally Posted by crznx2000

wanted some opinions. i have a gtir that needs a ring land installed on one cyln, just picked the car up last week. i want to transfer my previous setup into my new car, and cant decide on the motor i want to use. first of my goals are 450 hp or so. low 11 second street car. i have all the important go fast bits, thats not the problem. my delima is making my mind up on the motor. should i just rering the gtir, throw some acl rod bearings in and a cometic headgasket with arp studs, or should i sell it/trade it for a good de? i was under the impression that a gtir has more or less bulletproof internals. de, close, but not as good. opinions? anyone know what the limiting internal parts are? hope i dont sound compleley clueless.....i just need some pros/cons. kinda vague i know, just want a 500 hp capable motor, figured i could do that with more or less stock gtir internals.

pull the motor out and rebuild it and you will be fine.

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2009-09-03 19:13:10

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x4 on rebuilding the GTiR.

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That is very true.

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2009-09-03 19:21:37

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Originally Posted by 91serturbo

put on my flame retardant..

i thing the probs with arp studs has more to do with tuning than the studs.

i have used both arp sets and golden eagle. if cylinder pressure gets to high your head will lift .

the gtir uses bigger bolts i would get arp studs for the gtir . arp sells low grade sets and
higher grade studs for more money and foot work

i call bull shi t on det 600hp de 500 hp

i know i put down 350 with a de for a year steped it up over 400 killed it bent the rods causing uneaven bearing wear

det did 400 2 months killed ring lands

yes agressive tuning did kill my engines .

hone that gtir block . instal mahale pistons and acl bearings . beat the living shi t of it every day

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agressive tuning as in what, aggressive fuel maps, aggressive ignition maps or what. what were you using to tune your engine

i run the arp headstuds and have had no issues with them for over 7k miles, not a problem...

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2009-09-03 20:10:07

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Originally Posted by 91serturbo

put on my flame retardant..

i call bull shi t on det 600hp de 500 hp

i know i put down 350 with a de for a year steped it up over 400 killed it bent the rods causing uneaven bearing wear

det did 400 2 months killed ring lands

yes agressive tuning did kill my engines .

mmmm. yeah when you bend a rod and burn ring langs your tuning was messed up. detonation will kill a motor making 90whp

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2009-09-03 21:03:09

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i personally dislike the gti-r motor but thats just me

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2009-09-04 00:04:59

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what are some of your dislikes about it? dont be vauge lol

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2009-09-04 00:15:35

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I too dislike it because of scarcity/high price of parts, hassle for getting parts, one-off pieces that can be hard to replace in a pinch, etc.
I'm also not a huge fan of the ITBs.

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2009-09-04 01:38:16

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Originally Posted by BenFenner

I'm also not a huge fan of the ITBs.

thats the best part
thats like saying i dont want a gtr

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2009-09-04 02:17:30

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i am not saying a de cant make 500whp

he is asking what engine to use for 450whp . why advise him to use the de at its limit when he has a gtir

i have a calum basic in one car and real time in another

i was trying to relay real world problems to him. when my 350whp de had a maf malfuntion it bent the rods

poor fuel quality killed my det.

its not a perfect world i have had severe detination events with the mahale pistons and eagle rods and all is well

arp studs are a great budget head stud that are alot stronger than stock for a simalar price

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