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Thread: Mazworx T3 SS Series Top Mount Manifolds & Turbo Kits!

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2009-08-31 13:40:32
#21
In a way i agree, RWD has sooooooooooooo many aftermarket parts that its not even funny, Then to come on here and say ooohhhh look at our new RWD badass manifold, and look hell even take our FWD VE head stick it on your rwd SR block and then go and make a badass intake manifold for it just like that no questions asked.

Rediculous. No FWD support at all and it saddens me. Because there are people that would spend the money on a badass tubular equal length turbo manifold like that if it was properly setup for FWD. Same with a reasonably priced intake manifold in the $700-800 price range that kicks butt all through the powerband.

We have absolutely ZERO support when it comes to aftermarket manifolds both turbo and Intake. The two highest hp gains when it comes to a boosted car and a built N/A car and we get ZERO, all the companies that used to make them no longer make them. Matter fact they are no longer in existent. Im not saying you have to make soo many of them that you fear you wont sell them.

But honestly you made a rwd VE intake manifold on the flick of a finger and honestly how many rwd people are going ve head, probably not going to sell any more of those than if you made a kick butt intake manifold for the fwd DE/DET/VE Make them by order if you have to to save cost and not have to worry about selling them.

I agree 100% that we will probably never see a turbo or intake manifold from Mazworx any time soon if ever.

Rant over..
2009-08-31 13:49:34
#22
I would love a O2 induction manifold for my highport .
2009-08-31 16:43:14
#23
Well after reading the rant and comments, here is what it comes down to.

Demand..... The FWD market isnt really there. Nor are people willing to pay for quality work and products. There is a very very small limited amount of people that will, and that will not constitute for us to mass produce products. Were not talking about that chinese made products that you can get for a dollar and nickel, that most people will pay for in a heartbeat whether it works or not or whether it breaks or not.

We've sold more than a 30 VE/RWD conversions in less than 2 months. From a business standpoint, that will make us want to make more for that market. Everyone knows that the FWD market is less than 1% of the whole Nissan aftermarket performance industry.

On a brighter note, for those non-believers, we have a FWD here now so we will work on a few things time allowing. As far as I can see with the turbo manifold, you guys should really think about running a half radiator which will open up alot more room for manifold options. Maybe that's an option we will make.

The FWD market is getting a little better, we've been working on a few big projects for a few so we will see.
2009-08-31 16:52:09
#24
Originally Posted by ashtonsser
In a way i agree, RWD has sooooooooooooo many aftermarket parts that its not even funny, Then to come on here and say ooohhhh look at our new RWD badass manifold, and look hell even take our FWD VE head stick it on your rwd SR block and then go and make a badass intake manifold for it just like that no questions asked.

Rediculous. No FWD support at all and it saddens me. Because there are people that would spend the money on a badass tubular equal length turbo manifold like that if it was properly setup for FWD. Same with a reasonably priced intake manifold in the $700-800 price range that kicks butt all through the powerband.

We have absolutely ZERO support when it comes to aftermarket manifolds both turbo and Intake. The two highest hp gains when it comes to a boosted car and a built N/A car and we get ZERO, all the companies that used to make them no longer make them. Matter fact they are no longer in existent. Im not saying you have to make soo many of them that you fear you wont sell them.

But honestly you made a rwd VE intake manifold on the flick of a finger and honestly how many rwd people are going ve head, probably not going to sell any more of those than if you made a kick butt intake manifold for the fwd DE/DET/VE Make them by order if you have to to save cost and not have to worry about selling them.

I agree 100% that we will probably never see a turbo or intake manifold from Mazworx any time soon if ever.

Rant over..


Easy killer. It's people like you that buy that eBay manifold and modify it to suit your needs that don't help the FWD market. You could have EASILY gone to Protech or Lovefab and had a manifold made to suit your needs. There are options, you just don't want to spend any REAL money.

If you're willing to only spend $300 on a turbo manifold, what makes companies feel they'd make ANY money from building a high quality intake manifold OR turbo manifold?

'Nuff said.
2009-08-31 17:04:57
#25
Originally Posted by mazworxsales
Well after reading the rant and comments, here is what it comes down to.

Demand..... The FWD market isnt really there. Nor are people willing to pay for quality work and products. There is a very very small limited amount of people that will, and that will not constitute for us to mass produce products. Were not talking about that chinese made products that you can get for a dollar and nickel, that most people will pay for in a heartbeat whether it works or not or whether it breaks or not.

We've sold more than a 30 VE/RWD conversions in less than 2 months. From a business standpoint, that will make us want to make more for that market. Everyone knows that the FWD market is less than 1% of the whole Nissan aftermarket performance industry.

On a brighter note, for those non-believers, we have a FWD here now so we will work on a few things time allowing. As far as I can see with the turbo manifold, you guys should really think about running a half radiator which will open up alot more room for manifold options. Maybe that's an option we will make.

The FWD market is getting a little better, we've been working on a few big projects for a few so we will see.


^I sent you a PM like a month ago on the old forum. I didn't hear from you so I started buying comestic parts for my project car. Let me know what's good. I'll give you a run down through a PM of what I have in mind. Tubular of course.
2009-08-31 17:10:28
#26
If I had the money I'd have a 02 induction manifold and turbo manifold by now. But say your only running a t28 like most of this community. What does a manifold really do for only that small kind of turbo. Your better off just running a stock manifold. The only thing that I wanna get rid of the stock for is that the placement sucks. Can't run a 3" intake with a gti-r manifold, can barely run 2.5" and i've heard the VET manifold fixes all this. $500 from snickers and I could've bought one. Just a sucky time right now to buy things that aren't necessary.
2009-08-31 18:40:35
#27
ok i had no intention made here. Plain and simple you think i wanted to setup my turbo like i did but hey look even mazworx said to do exactly what i did, Run a half size radiator and opens up opportunity to run a rwd manifold or make making a fwd style manifold better because you dont have to have such tight bends.

Now here is the thing, A protech manifold still goes for almost 1000 bucks. I did not have that money at the time, however i did have the money for a 75.00 manifold that i braced and rewelded that soo far has not failed on me since rewelding and bracing. The manifold flows hella good, probably not as well as Mazworx stuff but well enough to make 461whp with fairly quick spool.

Here is another thing, a used o2 induction manifold still goes for 750-800 used. You never see them around. Plain and simple i could save 2 months and have enough for one, so far other stuff has come up but if i had the money sitting around for one and one popped up i would buy it. But again other stuff that needs fixing usually comes up.

There are people that will purchase the manifolds. All it takes for you guys at Mazworx its to make one and spec it and you have it to make on order on demand. No need to make 30 of them cuz more than likely it would take you years to sell that many. But if it was in the 750 price range that would be realistic and would allow more people to afford it. And dont tell me it cant be done for that price. Cuz if it comes down to it i will have a guy close to me in Phoenix make me a manifold that has done them before for fwd SR's and had great success and made some for many many other vehicles. He told me im looking at $600 and that i dont need to even give him a set of stock runners because he has them already. Thats full bolt on and if you have seen his work you will know its top notch. And he doesnt get his parts like the velocity stacks and materials probably near as cheap as you guys at Mazworx can get them. Plus it take him alot longer to get them done than a company with the best tools and equipment out there that money can buy to do them.

Again i dont think it would take much effort on your guys part to make parts for the fwd crowd, You just refuse to because you probably have tons of business already through the rwd crowd. Im not hating on you or anything. Again noone is doubting your products but again to come on here and basicly FLAUNT what you guys made is more like a kick in the face saying haha you cant use this. Well i could use that manifold with my setup but you get the picture, Noone wants to cut out their radiator supports and run a half size but twice as thick civic aftermarket aluminum radiator. Its unreasonable.

Again im stating the obvious here and until something is done about it, people are going to complain about the flaunting.
2009-08-31 20:41:28
#28
If you feel like its a kick in the face, I believe your wrong. We are merely showing it out there to showcase the product and quality of stuff we will build.

We are Nissan enthusiasts, not just RWD SR20's. We use the RWD SR20 as a base for building parts is because there's a demand for it. The way we see it that for every 5 manifolds we sell, 1 will go to a FWD. For us we take the time to build these things. If were going to build one, we are going to build 5 not just one. The time invested in 1 just does not calculate out right.

Like stated earlier, the FWD turbo manifold is in the works. Intake manifold will more than likely come for the turbo version also first then the NA. It will be much sooner than later.
2009-08-31 20:50:16
#29
Originally Posted by ashtonsser
ok i had no intention made here. Plain and simple you think i wanted to setup my turbo like i did but hey look even mazworx said to do exactly what i did, Run a half size radiator and opens up opportunity to run a rwd manifold or make making a fwd style manifold better because you dont have to have such tight bends.

Now here is the thing, A protech manifold still goes for almost 1000 bucks. I did not have that money at the time, however i did have the money for a 75.00 manifold that i braced and rewelded that soo far has not failed on me since rewelding and bracing. The manifold flows hella good, probably not as well as Mazworx stuff but well enough to make 461whp with fairly quick spool.

Here is another thing, a used o2 induction manifold still goes for 750-800 used. You never see them around. Plain and simple i could save 2 months and have enough for one, so far other stuff has come up but if i had the money sitting around for one and one popped up i would buy it. But again other stuff that needs fixing usually comes up.

There are people that will purchase the manifolds. All it takes for you guys at Mazworx its to make one and spec it and you have it to make on order on demand. No need to make 30 of them cuz more than likely it would take you years to sell that many. But if it was in the 750 price range that would be realistic and would allow more people to afford it. And dont tell me it cant be done for that price. Cuz if it comes down to it i will have a guy close to me in Phoenix make me a manifold that has done them before for fwd SR's and had great success and made some for many many other vehicles. He told me im looking at $600 and that i dont need to even give him a set of stock runners because he has them already. Thats full bolt on and if you have seen his work you will know its top notch. And he doesnt get his parts like the velocity stacks and materials probably near as cheap as you guys at Mazworx can get them. Plus it take him alot longer to get them done than a company with the best tools and equipment out there that money can buy to do them.

Again i dont think it would take much effort on your guys part to make parts for the fwd crowd, You just refuse to because you probably have tons of business already through the rwd crowd. Im not hating on you or anything. Again noone is doubting your products but again to come on here and basicly FLAUNT what you guys made is more like a kick in the face saying haha you cant use this. Well i could use that manifold with my setup but you get the picture, Noone wants to cut out their radiator supports and run a half size but twice as thick civic aftermarket aluminum radiator. Its unreasonable.

Again im stating the obvious here and until something is done about it, people are going to complain about the flaunting.


What are you RANTING about guy?! You need to start reading more.
2009-08-31 22:58:50
#30
lol not really ranting, just making a point. Again we all know at least if you have been around long enough that Mazworx quality is by far the top products out there. We all know that, It just feels like a kick in the face because we have yet to see anything from you guys like this for the fwd. Even 5 manifolds you shouldnt have a problem getting rid of them if they are priced good.

And again price range should be in the 750-800 at the most. Again if a guy that does it on his own with basic skills not all the fancy machines to laser cut things out and it make just as much power as yours does for $600 then i know you can do just as good and you know what with the name there is guys that will pay the extra 150-200 for the name brand.

But as far as right now we are left with no choice but to basicly build our own stuff or have someone that we know build stuff because there is simply no companies that are right now and plus you save some dough as well.

I have nothing against you im just making a point from what ive seen. Again you have great products and ive considered going rwd many many times just because the aftermarket for the rwd sr20 is by far greater than the fwd scene will ever see.
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