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2009-06-10 15:54:43
#11
Originally Posted by cortrim1
air to water ic is the ultimate stealth. A lite coat of black paint will work too. I am not painting my new shiney ic don't care if people know its boosted. its not like you can't here the bb turbo or my bov.


True statement. I painted the IC on my T-25 setup a flat black, but never bothered to paint my larger core with the 30r. Just doesn't make sense, because the 30r is loud as hell, and so is the Synapse BOV.
2009-06-10 16:09:52
#12
Originally Posted by Stabone
You know, I was really considering A-W IC, but was under the impression it was not good for a DD setup?? I wouldn't mind spending more for a A-W setup


For a dd you have to worry about heat soak. If I were going to do a a/w setup it would include a 5 gallon tank in the trunk for water/meth injection which would negate any issues with heat soak. This would be the best way to be a sleeper.
2009-06-10 16:12:36
#13
Originally Posted by TeKKiE
True statement. I painted the IC on my T-25 setup a flat black, but never bothered to paint my larger core with the 30r. Just doesn't make sense, because the 30r is loud as hell, and so is the Synapse BOV.


Not to mention my waste gate dumps under the front fender and is loud when open. I am sure my new turbo setup will be even louder than before. I am cutting the bumper and support for the ic to fit. So no way you will miss a 28x11x3 intercooler up front. This is not my dd so I am going all out.
2009-06-10 17:33:55
#14
Originally Posted by Stabone
You know, I was really considering A-W IC, but was under the impression it was not good for a DD setup??
A water-to-air intercooler is "best" suited for a daily driver or drag car. It is not well suited for a circuit track car with lapping sessions of any considerable duration.

Heat soak is the issue with using it for long races. For a daily driver it is just dandy.
2009-06-10 18:15:17
#15
It's all about keeping the flashy show on the low. I have mine painted black to avoid un-needed police attention down, granted those turbo specific parts that you guys mentioned will give it away, but if your driving slowly it shouldn't be bad, plus I do recirculate hehe.

You can try to use black mesh to cover it up

I at first painted mine a bit too thickly, but went back and removed the paint with carb cleaner and since then lightly coated it.
2009-06-10 20:39:50
#16
Originally Posted by cortrim1
For a dd you have to worry about heat soak. If I were going to do a a/w setup it would include a 5 gallon tank in the trunk for water/meth injection which would negate any issues with heat soak. This would be the best way to be a sleeper.


Originally Posted by BenFenner
A water-to-air intercooler is "best" suited for a daily driver or drag car. It is not well suited for a circuit track car with lapping sessions of any considerable duration.

Heat soak is the issue with using it for long races. For a daily driver it is just dandy.


Both are right. Daily driving is fine with an air to water setup, arguably better suited than air to air as the charge temp can get BELOW ambient with an A2W setup.

However as cortrim1 said, you do have to worry about heat soak. If you sit in traffic, you better put a fan on your heat exchanger to keep temps from rising. Other than that, once you have air moving over the surface of the heat exchanger, it is able to do the job of removing heat from the intake charge. The efficiency is also going to be based on the size of the heat exchanger.

If you need any more info to back this up, there is plenty of info on here regarding this setup. Search around a little bit.
2009-06-10 20:57:42
#17
This was mine before being sandblasted on the highway.

2009-06-11 03:13:28
#18
Originally Posted by unijabnx2000
This was mine before being sandblasted on the highway.



That is excellent.
2009-06-11 03:21:35
#19
Originally Posted by BenFenner
A water-to-air intercooler is "best" suited for a daily driver or drag car. It is not well suited for a circuit track car with lapping sessions of any considerable duration.

Heat soak is the issue with using it for long races. For a daily driver it is just dandy.


But...but... the ZR1 is air/water. So is the ariel atom, and the lotus elise turbo, and most MR2 turbo setups.

There are a lot of air/water setups on track cars, but it isn't nearly as conventional. People love their air/air units because they look cool and are cheap and easy.

A proper air/water setup will outperform a air/air when properly engineered, and the heat exchanger should be big enough to remove any heat extracted from the IC core.

I wonder what the capacity of the air/water setup is on these other track cars that utilize them. I can see some big benefits, but serious downfalls of these setups.

I would like to see how hot the temps on a good setup would get.
2009-06-11 03:23:12
#20
The boosted cobalts and the Ford GT uses air/water.
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