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2009-01-21 18:25:56
#21
i think i have about 1200 on my turbo setup... and still running good and very reliable...i abuse the crap out of it and doesnt quit.. i have a built DE in Salinas that imma put in that my friend (Ameca) sold me for cheap... so thats for later... who knows how much he spent on that and dont wanna ask. lol..
2009-01-21 19:10:21
#22
I dont want to add any thing up , my car alone was like 6k when i bought it 5 years ago plus the tickets , hotel to send my dad to get it and the fun has not stopped yet....several turbo's later ( none made it on the car ) and a few motors ( none made it in the car ) and lord only knows what else , I do but I would type forever ...I am sure in total it is over 30k also , my wife jokes I should just bought a GTR because cheap speed is not so cheap on this project ....I have enough parts to turbo 2 cars with built motors , minus a few things ....

And after a few trips to AMS ....I have this yearning to build a stupid power EVO next , so I keep my eye for EVOs with blown motors ...but that project is going top have to wait ....I wish nissan built WRX/EVO compitition , their parts are not to bad , in price
2009-01-22 04:24:38
#23
These high hp ve-t builds don't come cheap at all.
2009-01-22 18:47:43
#24
i actually try to forget or confuse my self as it doesn't seem so bad then
2009-01-23 16:12:35
#25
Yea sr20's are just as expensive as any other "high hp" car. I'm looking at about $8k in my car right now but that is EVERYTHING literally. That doesn't include a tranny either. I'm sure the costs for someone would be much higher depending on if someone else had to do some work. I know if I needed an install for the turbo, fmic, injectors, e-manage, brakes, motor mounts, clutch and everything else instead of doing it myself the price would be $12k. A turbo starts cheap (i got my t-25 for $255 shipped w/ mani) lol but you just keeping spending and spending.
2009-01-23 18:12:41
#26
All it takes is a little taste of boost and it all goes to hell haha. got to love it though
2009-01-23 18:35:10
#27
Originally Posted by ashtonsser
well lets see, i have spent quite a bit in the past 1.5 years but nowhere near that, most of my money went into a new jdm motor 4X, lol,

My initial setup

S13 T25, S13 mani, S13 greddy downpipe running open, Got for free for doing work for a buddy, Retail is around $400

Oil line kit $50
Boost Guage $50
Aem wideband $250
JWT S4 cams $600
Fidanza flywheel $200
ACT clutch $200
Prothane mounts $65
370cc injectors $50
Z32 maf $100
Walbro fp $100
Nismo afpr $100
New axles $100
FMIC and piping w/ bov $250
Calum ecu $105
GC coilovers on GR2's $250
15" wheels $300
powdercoated valve cover $60
misc hoses and crap $100

$2930 total for my whole turbo setup

This setup went 13.0 @110 on street tires on 8psi of boost, then went 12.4 @110 on 18psi spike holding 12, (bad idea), then went 12.4@96mph melting the piston 300ft before the end of the quarter, would have been possibly a 12.0 or so @113, already crossed 110mph when the motor went, gives you an idea, pushed the t25 way way too hard which caused that motor to go.

From there on out i had several stupid problems happen, totaling another 3 motors one of which was a semi build with cp piston, cosworth headgasket and all new bearings.

So $800 for my semi build, $475 X 3 for the JDM motors i went through.

Then i switched to my s15 t28 turbo i got for $300,
520cc injectors $200

This setup on 9psi was soooo much faster than my t25 setup with the 18psi spike holding 12 and alot safer, This setup on 9psi was in the 11.6-7 range @118mph easily. How do i know? because i walked away from a C6 vette with mods that went 11.9@115, a stage 3 srt 4 on a 60 trim 25psi boost that went 12.0 @114, walked him bad, I got greedy and upped the boost with a manual boost controller and it ended up going more than i wanted and all it took was one full run while in tuning process and cracked the ring lands. The stock cast pistons with 9.5:1 compression dont like 22psi from a t28 very much. But boy did it run hard spinning the tires till about 105mph, this was on basicly brand new falkens.


Again the car had a lot of weight reduction as well but it was quick. I sold off my old turbo setup and went ve and that didnt work out either, haha So now im going full on all out build with 60 trim turbo or bigger, possibly 35r, 16psi on pump 400whp, and 500whp on 26-28psi.

So as you can see im still well below the price they spend on their rsx's and was running just as fast.

On our cars you can do a full build with big turbo, good manifold, and all the works for under 10k and have a low low 10 second capable car with traction trapping 130+ speeds and be reliable as hell. This is my plan for my race car. Go Nissan


^How do you rate that S15 T28 turbo vs a GTiR T28? You didn't really spend much money on these setups and they were pretty d*mn fast. You seem like you know your way around the SRmotor, but you push it to the limit to see what happens. I don't necessary think it is a bad thing. At least you can say you know what it can and can not handle with hands on experience. I have the same goals as you with my project car. 400WHP on pump, but 500WHP on race gas.
2009-01-23 20:05:49
#28
well again i did always push my motors, the 9.5:1 on 21 psi with that bb t28 pulled like crazy, i was spinning the tires till 105mph on good tires and good suspension. But it detonated just enough to crack the ring land on one piston even on 100 octane, again the t28 at that boost level still makes alot of backpressure especially with the s4 cams thats something you just dont want. Had it been an 8.5:1 det it probably wouldnt have detonated, also had i used c16 it probably wouldnt have detonated.

From my knowledge the gtir t28 has a bigger exhaust housing than the s15 turbo, which is good for keeping backpressure down to a minumum. The s15 turbo spools like crazy though. So there are goods and bads. I have no doubt that a t3t04 at 16-19 psi would be fine on a 9.5:1 motor on pump gas and anythign above run c16, im gonna find out too cuz i have a 160k motor laying in my yard that im gonna throw in with my t3t04 60 trim, run 14 psi on pump, and 20+ on c16 race fuel. So yeah it should be fine cuz that turbo at those boost levels makes barely any backpressure. So i dont have to worry about excess heat staying in the cylinders. Better you control heat the more power you will make and the safer it will be on the motor.

So we will see what happens. Ill keep it updated. I want to see what this 160k mile motor can take before it finally gives out on a t3t04 with a calum realtime, 740cc injectors, c16 race fuel and a crapload of boost. Track times to come with it as long as the motor doesnt go before i get a chance to, hahahaah
2009-01-29 04:06:20
#29
I am prob around 30k as well with my nx with 4 engines (some mildly moded), 2 sets jwt cams, 1 t25/28, 2 t25's, 2 gt2871r's, one new turbo model *&^% 4 clutches, 3 sets of axles, finally paint/ restoration done, just to name a few parts.

This next and most likely final build, yeah right, is reliability and response. At least i am not driving a dsm, or i would have to add another 15k for transmissions. I think my friend tim has 130k or more last time we added up parts over the years on his 99gsx.
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