Thread: Timing Question and Oil Temp Guage

Ahh that makes sense, as oil gets warmer pressure should increase. I guess that would basically eliminate the need for the oil temp gauge.

As for the car, T25 at 9psi no cams.



I was considering that, but I will avoid anything with timing electronically until wideband or EGT hehe



No gauges? Any reason?







I checked the timing yesterday and it seems like it was at 15-16, I have UR pulleys so the timing marks look a little different, so I will check to make sure that is the case

When I'm driving I keep my eyes on the road. I only need to know engine speed and fuel level in general. Okay maybe vehicle speed too. Everything else is useless to me.

When I tune it's a different story.

I explained in more detail here:

http://www.sr20-forum.com/turbo/11593-lets-talk-gauges.html#post151208

And my partner in crime DanMartin feels the same way:

http://www.sr20-forum.com/turbo/11593-lets-talk-gauges-2.html#post164273


Eyes on the road. No one really looks at anything other than the road and the tach while driving. If you do, you're being a bit too dangerous if you ask me. Gauges are for passengers.

You know that's a very legitimate and old school point, your the second person this week to tell me about only needing the fuel gauge, MPH and RPM.

I completely agree and respect that too, it also makes it a lot easier not having to worry about mounting places and spending money on gauges haha.

I personally don't even get why people are stressing over the boost gauge, I press gas, I hear turbo, I get pushed to the seat = Turbo working and piping not leaking

I did find myself using the Water Temperature gauge yesterday, due to the cold weather I haven't hooked up my slim fans yet, and it's been fine until yesterday I was stupid to look for the whining noise while car was idling in my semi warm garage. Water Temp got to 260*F and that's when it started boiling out of the coolant reservoir. I shut of the car, and couple hours later added some more coolant.

Today the water temp gauge did save my but a few times while driving to work, because it was starting to heat up more then it should, so then I knew to kick on my heater fans , dropped 20*f almost instantly

As for why it heat up, I probably still have air leaks in the system

I don't look at any gauges either. Just listen and feel the car to know everything I need to know. Gotta keep eyes on road IMO.

I have a wideband and boost controller with display, but I put them out of sight and never look at them really.

You got that wrong man, as oil gets warmer, pressure decreases.

Well then, that's good to know, otherwise I would freak out after I connect the OIL PSI gauge.

I have oil temp and while I like it, I do think about eliminating it. Oil psi is much more useful. Personally I like gauges and once you practice your eye sweeps it doesn't really take your eyes off the road. After 2 years I don't even think about it. Its like checking your mirrors.

Oil temp usually staggers behind water temp, and is slower to react so if it gets up to 240-250 I usually slow down so it is useful. If I were you though I'd be all about an NX radiator and a wideband rather than an oil temp gauge.

Oh and as far as timing... Calum told me to set it at 15btdc for static timing and then dink with it in RT/TP on the dyno.

Sweet, I will make sure timing is at 15* and might start messing with it ECU wise

I was wondering if someone was going to catch that.

Gauges are tools, without them it's tough to do anything (or know anything). I think most of you would be fairly surprised how high your oil temps get in a few quick bursts or rowing through the gears.

Don't get me wrong, for most of the people out there with street cars your oil temps will be fine. But the track is a whole different thing.

For those of you that don't look at your gauges... why do you even have them? I watch my shat as much as I can so hopefully I can catch something before it goes bad even with the safety features of an ems.

DET timing 15 degrees btdc

I use my gauges all the time as well. I specifically located them up high near the regular gauges so that they were in sight. When I am doing a track day I only watch water temp., I never look at the speedo on track....