it was in the group buy section on here and the other sr20 forum, and on the gtiroc forum and on the canadagtir forum. weird. i bought mine long before the group buy so i paid far less.. as he wasn't as famous then. you could always try to contact him and arrange another group buy. he wanted 300 in the group buy price for the elbow only, so its another 20-30$ off. the 2 piece full downpipe is meant for a gti-r so i don't know how it will sit on another vehicle but its not much more.