Thread: Beware of 91sentragti-r aka Oscar Martinez

@Storm88000 would you please substantiate your claims against 91sentragti-r in this thread? If not, this thread and the associated iTrader feedback risk deletion. Please hurry.

IMO, Oscar should receive negative feedback because...

1- As a buyer he did not perform his due diligence
2- Refuses to accept that as a buyer he has/had responsibility within the sale (a few others around here don't seem to understand that either)
3- Has unreasonable expectation(s) as a buyer

DEFINITION OF 'DUE DILIGENCE - DD'
1. An investigation or audit of a potential investment. Due diligence serves to confirm all material facts in regards to a sale.
2. Generally, due diligence refers to the care a reasonable person should take before entering into an agreement or a transaction with another party.

Due Diligence (DD) Definition | Investopedia

He complained that Jordan only had one pic and no description, but if the physical appearance was so important to him (remember, he said "the header is still usable but not to my liking, especially for how much I paid for it including the shipping costs..") then why didn't he ask for more pics and a detailed description? He failed to perform his due diligence.

He blames Jordan for not providing info that he didn't ask for and even complains about shipping costs after the fact when he clearly agreed to $120. He doesn't want to accept his responsibility as the buyer.

He also refused Jordan's offer of a refund because he felt that he shouldn't have to pay to ship it back, a common practice on planet Earth. This is an unreasonable expectation.

This is not someone I'd want to sell to and this info could benefit a seller in the future.

@SE-RMonkey there is way too much blaming the victim going on there for my comfort level. Your argument (why you're here making one and not Storm88000 is pretty sad in and of itself) boils down to thinking the buyer should make sure they lower their expectations down to that of the lowest common denominator before making a purchase. This is not reasonable, nor is it appropriate when you consider his expectations of the item are mainly a result of the seller's item portrayal. Additionally, the buyer's expectations of good treatment after the sale are completely reasonable as well. He should not have to face this kind of backlash for wanting to wash his hands of this matter and not be out shipping both ways. Storm88000 should be lucky he's willing to compromise by simply accepting a refund and having return shipping paid for instead of demanding that the initial shipping payment be refunded as well!

I was asked a question and I answered it. Period.

EDIT: No, the buyer shouldn't ever have to lower their expectations, not sure where you're getting that. What I'm saying is that the buyer should ensure the product they're buying is up to their expectations BEFORE THEY AGREE TO BUY IT. It is called due diligence and it is the responsibility of the buyer. Why this is so hard for some people to understand boggles my mind.

I just wrote a much longer reply here but it didn't go thru after I hit submit and it disappeared. First I want to say that I'm going through major changes in my personal life including my living situation and my priorities have shifted a bit. I have not logged on here since last night and don't always have access during the day to the forum. Here's basically what I wrote in the post that didn't go thru:

1) If you want to remove this thread fine but I think the official feedback comment should remain. He is the worst type of buyer you can run into as a seller. He will never be satisfied. It's possible he decided he wanted something else in the 2 week period between when he first sent me half of the payment and when he received it. A form of buyer's remorse, possibly, or maybe he needed new tires, new brakes, who knows? A new window. And now he's trying to keep the item AND receive a full refund via Paypal.

2) There are many more people that agree with SE-RMonkey's opinions than have actually posted. I've spoken w/ other members in private but they have mostly chosen to stay out of it, which I understand. SE-RMonkey is a stand up guy, and he's fair. He's called me out for things in the past he didn't agree with. He's not biased because we know each other. He sees thru the buyers' whole charade, something a whole bunch of you guys do as well but just didn't physically type out

3) In addition to citing "internal damage" and "external damage" Oscar also cited "wrong model" and "wrong size" as the reasons for his Paypal dispute against me, which we KNOW isn't true

4) I had NO REASON to take those photos of the header sitting on my garage floor other than to send to him!

5) He wrote that the header "wasn't to his liking" and I offered him a refund if he sent it back; he refused because he wanted all shipping fees refunded

6) I received several blocked phone calls and hang ups except one with some kind of breathing on the other end, Google traced that to (what I believe is a pay phone) in Ontario, CA. I don't know anyone from there and strangely immediately after I posted about the phone calls they stopped completely

7) I blame myself for the UPS issue, but even more for ignoring the ENORMOUS warning signs about dealing with this guy. Non-stop text messages for 10 minutes straight usually each one ending in "!!!!" and/or "????" sometimes in all capital letters, and then silence for a few hours, and repeat. Paranoia and accusations from the very moment after he first sent me some of the $ on Paypal.

8) If this doesn't tell you there's something up with this guy: he accused me of conspiring with UPS employee(s) to artificially increase the weight of his package in order to benefit by pocketing the $ difference in shipping costs. Seriously..

9) I was informed if I did not send $175 to him by a certain deadline my "time was up" I would "be ruined" I would be "exposed for the thief and scam artist that I am" - basically extortion. At that point I was so sick of dealing with him I just said something like "go for it." Had he been a normal, reasonable person I would have gladly worked something out, but his behavior and conduct made that impossible.

10) I've received several positive feedback ratings since he originally created his thread

11) Never intended or wanted any of this to happen. I said it before, all he had to do was be a normal person and not accusatory from the very beginning. It's one thing to question if someone you don't know is going to send you something, it's another to dream up some sort of scam involving employees of the UPS store to defraud him of a few bucks. If that doesn't tell you something about the guy, I don't know what possibly will. Paranoid personality disorder? Maybe.

12) Where are the "official responses" for other threads where people clearly and legitimately took payments and never sent the items?

Some tidbits about paypal. As a seller, you can file an appeal and send them notarized, signed explanation of the facts with documentation. I have gone through the appeal process myself and ended up getting my funds back (along with the product unsellable because the buyer broke it which is a whole other story) ...but I'm pretty sure paypal will require the buyer to pay return shipping (at least that is what has happened to me as a buyer in the recent past as well as seller) Keep in mind, however, you will have to refund in full upon return receipt (meaning you will end up eating ship cost 1-way regardless)

@Storm88000, let me rephrase.
Please provide some type of evidence (not your word) for the claims you are making. So far, some of your points are demonstrably false, and the rest are unsubstantiated. It's not looking good for your claims.
Rephrase them and/or take them one at a time if you'd like.

Subjective. So you are saying that the victim here is Oscar? That he's not at fault at all?

That is correct. The only mistake I see @91sentragti-r made (so far) was that he trusted and gave the benefit of the doubt to @Storm88000 on multiple occasions throughout this process. I'm confident he won't make that mistake again.

For a guy that wants to be a lawyer, he doesn't seems to understand the importance of evidence.