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2014-09-10 21:11:45
Originally Posted by 91sentragti-r
Originally Posted by Storm88000
Originally Posted by SE-RMonkey
Sounds like textbook buyers remorse.

My first gut feeling was this actually, or maybe he found a header he wanted more from someone else, but it was too late at that point. I told him I consider myself an honest person but there was no way to win in this situation. He basically tried to extort me of $175.00 or if I didn't pay up threatened to "ruin me" etc. So I said fine send the damn thing back I'll refund your money, then he started saying I'd have to refund both shipping charges, so the $130~ish from me to him, and then $130 from him to me, that's $260 + $350 = $610 - ridiculous.

once again there you go with your jumping into conclusions...

Jump to conclusions? Why don't you discuss how you accused me of artificially raising the price of the shipping cost so you thought I could try to pocket the difference in what you paid, because you saw on the receipt somewhere it said "99 pounds." Recall after that I told you to call the store and gave you their phone number if you didn't believe me, then you backpedaled when you saw it said 17 of 99lbs and pretended you were joking around. That sure sounds like jumping to conclusions.
2014-09-10 21:17:04
Originally Posted by Storm88000
Originally Posted by 91sentragti-r

like the b.s way you try to wash your hands Jordan... all your conversations that you had with me will speak for themselves and the pictures... stay tuned my community...

I never said anything wrong. I'm sure you'll conveniently leave out the two dozen threats you wrote to me. And I wouldn't be surprised if you would make up things I didn't say. I'll know because I also can simply go back in my phone too, but I don't care enough to do so. I feel sorry for you. All you had to do was be a nice person, that's it. It was never about the money, it was about your behavior.

don't realize why it is so hard for you to go back and post all the conversations in which you claim, that I accused you and Was threatening / harassing you, to clear up your name up and make me look bad.. why can't you do that Mr Jordan??
2014-09-10 21:19:00
Originally Posted by 91sentragti-r
Originally Posted by SE-RMonkey
Sounds like textbook buyers remorse.

it could sound like whatever you want, all I know that if it was you in this situation you would have a different point of view..

That's the thing, @SE-RMonkey wouldn't be in this situation. You know why? Because he's a polite, fair guy. He wouldn't just bombard people with threats before he has all the facts. In another lifetime had SE-RMonkey not been pleased with something I sent him, I can assure you we could have come to a mutual aggreement about what to do about it and it would soon be water under the bridge. That's all you had to do was be a nice guy like I was towards you, but your hostile attitude, threats, and basically blackmail (i.e. "send me $175 dollars or you're going to be sorry!") type of texts, you don't understand how to deal with people. You get more flies with honey than you can with vinegar.
Last edited by Storm88000 on 2014-09-10 at 21-20-34.
2014-09-10 21:24:08
Originally Posted by Storm88000
Originally Posted by 91sentragti-r

sir, you're missing the whole point on this thread... the purpose of this thread was to inform everyone that this individual doesn't describe the item as it physically is and shouldn't be trusted... not to say that it was my fault for not asking... I already answer your questions to the best of my ability and you seem not to get the point and are still jumping all over my Back...

You don't know SE-RMonkey, but as long as I have he has always been at least 2 things: 1) Logical and 2) Fair. He is a level headed guy and didn't miss the point of anything. The situation with UPS sucks I agree, and I am sorry that it happened, but I don't work for them and I didn't throw the thing down the steps or whatever they did to it. The photo you sent me of the box clearly showed it was beat to hell, but it was in perfect condition purchased at the UPS store when it left, it was brand new.

so what you and se-rmonkey are saying, is that it is appropriate for an individual to sell and item that he or she clearly had knowledge that it was damaged but it's okay not to post that information on the for sale description??? really don't know what logical you and him are talking about???
2014-09-10 21:28:48
Originally Posted by Kyle
I cannot find whatever thread I had my old weapon R header for sale. I had a ding on mine from low-life problems and I was holding on to the header for a while. Someone wanted one and I eventually sold it but I disclosed all of that, and took photos of the ding. The buyer did not care so I packaged it up nicely and sent it away. The buyer was happy since it arrived safe and sound. 99% of the time whenever folks have dings on the header, they disclose that information. Sadly, I cannot find that thread on either forum if one even exists.

Now, I know from following the thread of Jordans what has happened. A lot of folks have followed his threads for a plethora of reasons. I am sure somewhere along the line that stupid fucking phrase 'caveat emptor' will be thrown around. Well, that takes second place to a seller being ignorant and not disclosing such information. I also know that a "fire sale" happened in the case of Jordan because his "significant other" was being rather bitchy about his B13 and associated parts for whatever reason. Once Jordan had the tow truck incident on his car, it really seemed like he was done with the car.

I cannot blame the seller since look at the still prevalent rash of shitty transactions that have happened in 2014 so far..... the list is not getting smaller nor is it exponentially growing larger. Shitty transactions happen and that saddens me a bit on the inside because I like to think this place is better than that. If you or anyone you know has been ripped off, it fucking sucks. I was taken for $600 off an engine I was told was good, trusted the seller, and when I removed the valve cover, I had a bunch of surprises, and even more when I removed the cylinder head..... I still need another slotted shim to fix that cylinder head.

Looking at both sides of this from what I have little to no interest in besides both parties having a good end result, both of these guys don't want to play nicely with each other so this is where we are at now. Two fellas don't want to play right now.

As far as packaging goes, you all should know damn good and well that shipping companies don't give one shit about what is inside. Protect all of the things you send with some form of shipping protection. And not insurance, I mean air saver, styrofoam, paper, anything to cushion the stuff being shipped inside. I had to send another header to Kentucky @nsusammyeb for him to help me fix and I packed that thing like it was going to the moon! Not having any packing material in there is no bueno for both parties and one party is at fault for that.

Doesn't sound like buyers remorse from the words in this thread as it looks like an unhappy transaction. But the pictures will show a lot more rather than the emotionally charged words coming from a lot of people, including those who were not involved in the transaction. I am trying to take a stance of neutrality here but that is quickly dissolving among the ranks.... please stay on track and maintain neutral comments.

I don't annoy or harass people when I buy stuff, and I also do not punish people who annoy me or harass me..... something else to keep in mind for everyone out there reading. (because it looks like this two way street is full of traffic today)

I wouldn't use a nice header if there was a ding on it. That impedes air flow and would not be installed on my personal car. Something everyone has the option of choosing.

I totally agree with you in many of the things you said on this post..
2014-09-10 21:30:20
Originally Posted by mirrortints
Shipping is the sellers responsibility. If you let someone ship it for you, it doesn't matter IMO. The buyer assumes responsibility once they receive the product. So, if UPS wrapped it in foil and shipped it, it's the sellers responsibility.

And if issues weren't disclosed and the buyer needs to research to find out the issues with the product...sellers responsibility.

Nobody can come on here and say, "you didn't see my other 5 posts of issues with my part? That's your problem" (buyer).

I completely agree with you those are my thoughts exactly..
2014-09-10 21:30:37
I don't remember what I wrote in that thread as it was well over month ago, but I do recall writing something like "pretty good shape but has seen better days" - never said it was perfect. And then you asked me what it was like, I SENT YOU PICTURES of it once I removed it from the car. What UPS did is messed up so I suggest you continue to take it up with them. I'm done helping you out once you started all of this. And sadly like I told you last night I was thinking about just giving in to your demands so you'd kindly leave me alone for ONE DAY (which you haven't for about 3 weeks) but then I got the email from Paypal.
Last edited by Storm88000 on 2014-09-10 at 21-34-20.
2014-09-10 21:31:53
Lets get these pictures up, you guys are just barking in the dark. OP, throw up them pictures of the item, the damage, the box/packaging, the conversation.......jordan, any pictures of the item prior to shipping? how bout pics of ur side of the conversation, how about pictures of this dispute on paypal where he said it was the wrong size/item....we need less he said, you said and more screen shots and pictures up in this bitch
Last edited by speedricer on 2014-09-10 at 21-33-16.
2014-09-10 21:33:34
Originally Posted by Kyle
Originally Posted by Storm88000
@Kyle - this: http://www.sr20-forum.com/classifieds-naturally-aspirated/74979-jmr-4-1-header-sold.html is the original for sale thread for the item. Look at the first post, it has NOT been edited since 8-12-14.

The other thread you saw was however for the same item, and I did close that today when I saw this thread. When he was flipping out one day at me I said "why don't you just list it for sale for what you paid for it if you don't want it? I'm sure someone else would want it." He said maybe but insisted I make the post for him so I did it so he'd (hopefully) leave me in peace for a single day, and I relayed any of information from interested people to him. So I did NOT edit the original thread today at all.

You are correct, the original thread posted on 8/12 was not edited, the second post, (the one that goes against forum rules for multiple posts of the same thing) is the one edited.

However, this post, you edited today after you saw this thread.... http://www.sr20-forum.com/vvl/74374-s-alive-but-fml-once-again-absolutely-ridiculous-what-i-found-2.html#post985922

Once again, I am not for or against either party but merely trying to pool more information together. I think this may be a waste of my own time but my goals are simply to help collate all information to one thread to help both parties achieve a positive resolution.

I appreciate your concern Kyle and thank you for taking your time to post in this thread..
2014-09-10 21:36:54
Originally Posted by mirrortints
With the damage from the towing company, that was the only pic posted of this header??? Seriously???

My thoughts on points again, Smh...
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