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2012-08-16 16:42:08
#61
Im no expert but the picture of those ksports at those adjustments are not slammed at all. Can someone else chime in and explain this better? Yes its relevant.
2012-08-16 16:42:09
#62
Originally Posted by Cyrus
Wow with the rape comment. I guess after i sell perfectly good parts to people i should wait a month after they install them and do whatever it is they did and then just offer up their money back when shit didnt go right for them. Perfect reasoning there with the rape comment.


Your comment was just as ridiculous as mine. You're saying I was partly to blame? Please educate me. How the fuck am I to blame for buying parts that are advertised as freshly rebuilt and receiving parts that are completely shot. How does that work in Cyrusland?

I guess I should have installed them on a shock dyno to verify that they were in perfect working order before installing them.

Guys, i'm sorry i'm such an unreasonable asshole.
2012-08-16 16:44:55
#63
Originally Posted by Disney
Originally Posted by Cyrus
Wow with the rape comment. I guess after i sell perfectly good parts to people i should wait a month after they install them and do whatever it is they did and then just offer up their money back when shit didnt go right for them. Perfect reasoning there with the rape comment.


Your comment was just as ridiculous as mine. You're saying I was partly to blame? Please educate me. How the fuck am I to blame for buying parts that are advertised as freshly rebuilt and receiving parts that are completely shot. How does that work in Cyrusland?

I guess I should have installed them on a shock dyno to verify that they were in perfect working order before installing them.

Guys, i'm sorry i'm such an unreasonable asshole.


One doesn't need a shock dyno to determine if a shock assembly is blown or not. Calm it down a little bit there guy. No one said you were a deadbeat and that you should DIAF.
2012-08-16 16:45:50
#64
Originally Posted by Disney
And WTF are you talking about that i'm partly to blame? I guess female rape victims are partly to blame for having a vagina to start with. In no way, shape, or form could I be in any way to blame for a guy ripping me off, selling me busted parts advertised as "Freshly Rebuilt".


What does this have to do with parts (parts vs rape)? You installed them you are partly to blame. You think if you bought these new and they were blown and then you told the store you bought them from you raced on them they would give you your money back? Hell no they would tell you that you installed them wrong. Which is exactly what is going to happen here. It's all hearsay.

And yes even if the seller is reputable you still should test or have someone that knows test them if they look like they are not good.

Testing them it's not hard. You said you are good with engines how would you test the compression of an engine? You would drive the piston up and down to see if you get the correct reading. Same applies to this, you would drive the piston down by pushing on the insert and it should be a certain number (which you usually can get from the manufacturer or out of the reading material) of sec for full exentsion and should smoothly go down and up.

Right now it seems to me you are trying to claim ignorance when I'm bringing this to the forefront. Sorry, that wouldn't even be a defense in court. Unless I personally know the dude I'm not going to put a POS on my car.
2012-08-16 16:48:09
#65
Originally Posted by Disney
Originally Posted by Cyrus
Wow with the rape comment. I guess after i sell perfectly good parts to people i should wait a month after they install them and do whatever it is they did and then just offer up their money back when shit didnt go right for them. Perfect reasoning there with the rape comment.


Your comment was just as ridiculous as mine. You're saying I was partly to blame? Please educate me. How the fuck am I to blame for buying parts that are advertised as freshly rebuilt and receiving parts that are completely shot. How does that work in Cyrusland?

I guess I should have installed them on a shock dyno to verify that they were in perfect working order before installing them.

Guys, i'm sorry i'm such an unreasonable asshole.

Just real quick then im done... You said when you got them they were seized.

Four weeks pass (within that four weeks you installed them anyway like an awesome guh)

The very SECOND in cyrusland you installed and put the keys in the car amd turned it over amd drove off is where in cyrusland, after having prior knowledge of them not being as they should have been as described to you in the forsale thread, is where your motherfucking blame starts. Smartass.
2012-08-16 16:51:42
#66
Originally Posted by Cliff
[Freshly rebuilt, vs. rebuilt recently, vs. rebuilt. Semantics. They were rebuilt, as if to say that they were repaired. Who cares if it's 1 day or 1 year, they were rebuilt. I agree with you in that they shouldn't have even installed them. Buyer accepts responsibility for the product once the product was mounted IMO. You no longer have the burden of proof that they were busted before you mounted them and raced on them.

Originally Posted by Disney
Originally Posted by Cliff


If this is how you received them, then you're mistaken when you think that they were lowered down all the way and "slammed".

That is NOT slammed.


Uhhh... Yes they are. See the threaded part? In this picture those threads go all the way tot eh bottom of the mounting "sleeves" or the Orange parts if you will. I mean... All the way down. If needed I could pull them off and show you how they look when they are not slammed and adjusted to a reasonable ride height. Although, i'm not trying to prove anything here so that shouldn't be needed.


So they're lowered inside of the sleeve (don't worry I have coil over suspension on my WRX, I can follow) to the base of the sleeve, and that means they're slammed? You still have full shock travel. I don't see how that's slammed. I'm no suspension genius though.


Bottom line: I may squash this all together. You both fucked up, but the Buyer accepts the responsibility of the product once installed. There's no reason why you should have installed the coil over setup if you had reason to believe that they were jacked up.


How would you have tested them? Put them on the car? Yeah... Me too.

And the pic is what I was sent via text. I do not know if they were adjusted to that height when I got them, I don't even know if those are the same ones I got. Like I said, mine have a characteristic mark on the rear lower mount that does not show in the pic. Coupld be that the shock in the pic has them rolled over to hide the mark, could be that they are not the same.

Additionally, if you're thinking that plenty of threaded portion is showing, I would agree. The reason that (on mine when I got them) had plenty of thread showing was that the spring preload was through the roof!!! I mean they were cranked the fuck down! When we took all the preload out of them there was maybe an inch and a half between the lock rings.

This is the only pic I have of them. This is the day they arrived, and I opened the box to snap a single pic of one to sent to Bob-E.
Last edited by Disney on 2012-08-16 at 16-52-23.
2012-08-16 16:52:28
#67
Read my post, you can even look up on youtube how to test your inserts. Again not hard at all.
2012-08-16 16:55:09
#68
here I'll do the work for you:

2012-08-16 16:56:11
#69
Originally Posted by Cyrus
Just real quick then im done... You said when you got them they were seized.

Four weeks pass (within that four weeks you installed them anyway like an awesome guh)

The very SECOND in cyrusland you installed and put the keys in the car amd turned it over amd drove off is where in cyrusland, after having prior knowledge of them not being as they should have been as described to you in the forsale thread, is where your motherfucking blame starts. Smartass.


I installed them days before I left for Road Atlanta. That is when I found the adjusters were siezed up. I didn't know they were seiezed when they came in.
Last edited by Disney on 2012-08-16 at 16-56-31.
2012-08-16 16:57:10
#70
Originally Posted by kcobabe
here I'll do the work for you:

k sport coilover shocks rebound test 1 - YouTube


Thanks. This would be at the top of my To Do list if I had bought parts from a questionable seller that weren't freshly rebuilt. However, I bought parts from what appeared to be a great seller and they were advertised as freshly rebuilt so I had no reason to doubt that.
Last edited by Disney on 2012-08-16 at 16-58-08.
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