Bad experience buying from Overkill Engineering
Hi everybody.
First of all I want to say sorry for my English, is not my first language but I’ll try to do my best so you can understand what I wants to explain.
Recently I bought from them a set of front tubular control arms for my EDM Nissan Sunny Gti N14 chassis. In the product description they say them work for Nissan B13/B14. N14 chassis is the same that B13 and front suspension member, where the arms are fixed, shares the same Nissan part number in the three chassis (B13, B14 and N14) so the arms must fit.
I received the arms and at first look they look not properly done. Here is a picture. As you can see, the stock arm (left) have the two bushings aligned but the Overkill one (right) have them at different angle and at different points in the Y-axis. I realize it was impossible to install them.
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I mail Mark and he told me I should be patience and that they will fit but they needs camber/caster plates in order to tune the geometry. He also said that all the arms he has made have a ½” difference. Never of all this is explained at the product information at his website.
I think ½” is a huge different for something that must be real accurate and done on a proper bedplate in order to have the exact same mounting points that the stock suspension. You buy this because you want to have the best geometry if you lower the car but then you have all the other geometry (Caster/Camber) changed, WTF.
I give them a try but, as I was expecting they won’t fit. This is what happened. In one of them is not possible to fix neither of the bushings, in the other arm I can fix the front bushing but not the rear one. As you can see both rear bushings (the Delrin ones) are angled, and they must be straight.
I report back to Mark and he said they are made for B13/B14 and that I my car is different they may not work. As I said before, and I let he know, the B13 has the same chassis as N14 so if they were properly made they should fit.
He told me to ship them back to “inspect”. I deny as I think I have enough evidences that all this have been his fault so I want my money back and then I will sent them back.
If I send him the arms I will lost my money and the evidences.
He never mail be back so I start a Dispute at PayPal and then a Claim. payPal said they only cover shipping related problems.
Mark, you have STOLEN me 650$. I hope everybody here reads this in order to be aware for your low quality fabrication and customer service.
First of all I want to say sorry for my English, is not my first language but I’ll try to do my best so you can understand what I wants to explain.
Recently I bought from them a set of front tubular control arms for my EDM Nissan Sunny Gti N14 chassis. In the product description they say them work for Nissan B13/B14. N14 chassis is the same that B13 and front suspension member, where the arms are fixed, shares the same Nissan part number in the three chassis (B13, B14 and N14) so the arms must fit.
I received the arms and at first look they look not properly done. Here is a picture. As you can see, the stock arm (left) have the two bushings aligned but the Overkill one (right) have them at different angle and at different points in the Y-axis. I realize it was impossible to install them.
[img] http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/922/comparacionbrazos.jpg[/img]
I mail Mark and he told me I should be patience and that they will fit but they needs camber/caster plates in order to tune the geometry. He also said that all the arms he has made have a ½” difference. Never of all this is explained at the product information at his website.
I think ½” is a huge different for something that must be real accurate and done on a proper bedplate in order to have the exact same mounting points that the stock suspension. You buy this because you want to have the best geometry if you lower the car but then you have all the other geometry (Caster/Camber) changed, WTF.
I give them a try but, as I was expecting they won’t fit. This is what happened. In one of them is not possible to fix neither of the bushings, in the other arm I can fix the front bushing but not the rear one. As you can see both rear bushings (the Delrin ones) are angled, and they must be straight.
I report back to Mark and he said they are made for B13/B14 and that I my car is different they may not work. As I said before, and I let he know, the B13 has the same chassis as N14 so if they were properly made they should fit.
He told me to ship them back to “inspect”. I deny as I think I have enough evidences that all this have been his fault so I want my money back and then I will sent them back.
If I send him the arms I will lost my money and the evidences.
He never mail be back so I start a Dispute at PayPal and then a Claim. payPal said they only cover shipping related problems.
Mark, you have STOLEN me 650$. I hope everybody here reads this in order to be aware for your low quality fabrication and customer service.
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Originally Posted by Wifey
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