Let me just start off with, Shawn, as always you are the last person on this forum that I ever want to disrespect or upset. I've always had great respect for you.
Originally Posted by
ShawnHow in the world would we know that? It is not "wild assumption" when the facts are clearly pointing towards thee prime, and only, suspect. It is a working hypothesis based on facts.
I agree.
Originally Posted by
ShawnOnce again, how would we know any of this? You have credibility within this community, and my personal respect. But Jorgie? He is not a well known entity, a regular, nor an OG, on this forum.
I understand, and I understand the situation.
Originally Posted by
ShawnNot everyone uses or used Paypal in this current scenario.
I've PayPal'd, sent personal checks, money orders, and brought folks cash green money. All within recent months, all on this forum.
Very true. I guess I'm just quick to assume that because that's the only way that I pay for things purchased online. That was my mistake.
Originally Posted by
ShawnPretty much, based on known facts at the time, that this guy lost his mind, or fooled folks for a while, and in either case, he blatantly ripped off several members to fund his Christmas.
Which is an extremely ugly current trend that has everyone very uptight, cynical, demoralized, defensive, paranoid and punchy. Forum wide.
That was an assumption by the community toward Justin. This was based solely, though with good reason and logic, on the use of his forum screen name for the transactions. And I understand and agree with you all. There has been a lot of bs going on on the forums as of late.
Originally Posted by
ShawnThe facts were that folks got ripped off via Jorgies account. It is a completely logical hypothesis to look at the owner of that account as the prime, and only, suspect. That is why there are passwords on accounts. So only one (1) person controls that account.
As stated above.
Originally Posted by
ShawnI believe you Lance.
Thank you, Shawn.
Originally Posted by
ShawnHowever, you are the first person to show up that personally knows the guy. In fact, he has been aware of this thread for a few days, but has not logged on, even under a different forum user name, from the local library, to address the situation.
The reason that he has not been on to try to resolve the situation is because he does not have a computer or easy access to one. He has been doing what he can the last few days to try to get this all taken care of. He is a very busy guy with his business, wife, child, etc.
Please understand that I was not pissed at any of you for being upset or protective at all. What got me was the first post that Nissan Crazy made about calling his friends and relatives in the area to come after him. I stopped reading through the thread right there and made the initial post. I then read the rest of the post and wrote the "Edit."
Originally Posted by
ShawnWe made threats, you made threats about our threats. That's probably good for now at least.
I was not trying to make threats to anybody's threats, I mearly wanted to let those people know that the actions being talked about would not yield positive results for the aggressors. It would be a very very bad deal for them. In the last year, I've spent many hours researching local laws pertaining to self defense and weapons laws and such. I've had my share of problems/scares in this area that I decided to take an active
Originally Posted by
ShawnI am not alone in thinking that this thread involves anybody that has a pulse on this forum. Look around Lance. Plenty of threads with plenty of folks discussing on-line con-artists.
I agree, I just don't think that there needs to be anybody not involved putting him down.
Originally Posted by
ShawnThis is....sigh....yet another fucked up, drama intensive, giant suck-fest of folks getting ripped off. Adding in your friend Jorgie, and five or six more forum members got group-fucked in our Classifieds in this thread alone.
Yes, it sucks. We are working on trying to get it resolved.
Originally Posted by
ShawnSorry to have upset you Lance, but our reactions were understandable and justified. Sorry to see your friend is added to the "Fucked" list. Sorry to see another scam-artist, theiving, con-man run off with folks hard earned money.
With respect,
Shawn B
You're good, Shawn. I understand how everyone feels about everything that goes on here. We are all part of one big family and I understand everyones readiness to stick together especially on things like this. I meant no disrespect to anybody.
Originally Posted by
nissanAre you talking about Rathdrum, Idaho.....that is where one of the dudes I talked to last night is at ....if Jorgie needs help I can try to lend him a hand as well , I understand I jumped the gun in making calls , but people got ripped off here that are more then just forum friends to me, some of them are good friends of mine , and I will always do what I can to help them , me and my friends have no tolerance for that type of crap . I do what I can to solve it as quickly as possible .....I wish him the best in getting this figured out .....if I can help I will , I want to purge the scammer element from my community ......I am not trying to be an Ethug , I am just tired of this crap ...
I understand, bro. Making calls like that was not necessary in this situation because of all relative circumstances, but I understand why you did what you did. We appreciate the help you're offering and your compassion toward our community.
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