thats what i think, i couldnt even get my car on the road.. ohh i am not saying he is bad at all, but it took a long time to come to me, he never answer my pms for a while, just bad experience thats all. But my basic ve program is wrking great, so far but i can only go up to 50+/- with the apexi, so if i put big injectors i am limited to like 460 is the max i am go for before i need a chip