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2012-10-12 04:11:07
#11
Think im gonna get mine, It will go nicely with the new manual steering rack.
2012-10-12 04:24:06
#12
Originally Posted by ashtonsser
Yeah i was gonna say vadim, its supposed to be on the bottom side. lol.


You have the freedom to choose, the B15 is not too seriously low, thus I wanted to see what the car feels like with them in the stock location. I'll swap them sides and we'll see if there are any real improvements.

I miss my P11 which is not bumpsteer prone at all , she'll be running soon again.
2012-10-12 04:44:23
#13
Yeah p11 has a much better suspension. What did you do to your p11...Did i miss something?
2012-10-12 12:20:36
#14
It may not have bump steer, but it has a lot of wear parts and you are very limited in what you can do thanks to the third member. Don't get me wrong, I did like the P11 ride, but it was a LOT of work to maintain and stiffen up while trying to get any camber/castor adjustment.

Brent
2012-10-12 13:29:13
#15
Define a lot of work to maintain?

Multi-link > Struts

There are not a lot of parts for the car. If Sentra folks think it is hard getting stuff for there car, they will be infuriated going to a P-series car. Different strokes for different folks, I guess....
Last edited by Kyle on 2012-10-12 at 13-30-27.
2012-10-12 13:48:54
#16
Originally Posted by ashtonsser
Yeah p11 has a much better suspension. What did you do to your p11...Did i miss something?


Since I have a Turbo B15 for daily, and stock P11 as stock car (wife's car but we carpool), I can finally leave my P11 in the garage and work on things and not worry about time constraints. I already pulled the VE out, tapped the Roller Rocker block, now doing some suspension mods to the sub frame and will drop the RR back in NA for a bit, then will disco it.

Originally Posted by coach
It may not have bump steer, but it has a lot of wear parts and you are very limited in what you can do thanks to the third member. Don't get me wrong, I did like the P11 ride, but it was a LOT of work to maintain and stiffen up while trying to get any camber/castor adjustment.

Brent


B15 is nicer with adjusting the ride height, remove wheel and rotate. P11 you gotta unbolt the 3rd link and swaybar usually. Besides that I haven't seen anything more difficult. It's also nicer to do alignment on P11, toe doesn't change from when it's up in the are and when it's on the ground.
Last edited by Vadim on 2012-10-12 at 13-49-55.
2012-10-12 14:18:26
#17
Originally Posted by Kyle
Define a lot of work to maintain?

Multi-link > Struts

There are not a lot of parts for the car. If Sentra folks think it is hard getting stuff for there car, they will be infuriated going to a P-series car. Different strokes for different folks, I guess....


Exactly, I did go to a P11 car and it pissed me off. Now I am parting it out and focusing on my NX!

All the different links/bushings and so on needed are a pain. The creaks, squeaks, rattles and clunks will drive you crazy. Double wishbone would have been better than that crazy setup.

Brent
2012-10-12 15:24:37
#18
So your suspension was improperly maintained and you cast it away because of that....interesting. That saddens me a bit on the inside.

But even a stock B13 does not have camber and caster adjustment, ya gotta go out, buy the bolts and plates to adjust and by the time you do all that, now your steering axis is different. Huzzah now more work has been created for you. All of the things are give and take and some give and take less in other areas.

The beam surely did not help you at all feel right as far as how the thing felt while "cornering" which is more an exercise of plowing via front end. But that is a horse of another color.

These kits are great and all B13, B14, B15 owners should buy one!
2012-10-12 17:43:24
#19
Nice kit, I'm glad I picked up Chuck's back in the day. Made a significant difference on my B13.

And fwiw, I had a nicely built B13 for track days with close to $4000 of suspension modifications. My P10 handles better with half the cost in mods, and I can still daily drive it.
2012-10-12 18:57:16
#20
Originally Posted by ashtonsser
Think im gonna get mine, It will go nicely with the new manual steering rack.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the manual rack take thicker inputs on the tie rods? At least the ones I saw do. So these parts won't fit the manual rack.
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