Thread: WRX Coilovers B13 - Hear me out

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Except that setup doesn't go low enough for him if you guys would read his original thread you would know that. If he wants to ride that low and have any ride quality, he has to do everything to get suspension travel back. CSK and Ground Control Plates are the only way to do that. I would also say a bump steer kit, but I know that is too much.

Brent

racelands are horrible theres a reason theyre so cheap my friend had them on his focus,they blew out in a few months.

Waste money on racelands, or do it right the first time.

I vote for the former.

The WRX weighs between 2,800 and 3,100 pounds. Quite a bit heavier vehicle.

58/42 distribution on the WRX 2011 model. The B13 is 62/38. 8% different front to rear.

I don't know of those numbers above are "close enough" to not matter, or if being that far off (8% on weight distribution, as much as 25% on overall weight) on percentages of the figures on each criteria, is going to throw off the performance of the coilovers.

That much of a difference (8-25%) sounds like a HUGE difference between the platforms to me. Maybe someone with more mechanical/suspension chops could comment on my numbers above?


What is a "monster truck stanced Sentra"? Because you never discuss exactly how low you want to go.

If you are never going to be using all the features of the coilovers, then that is just more (cheapo) parts to break and fiddle with in the first place.

Is a 1-inch drop enough for you? That is the drop of the Hypercoil or Road Magnet springs.

IF 1-inch is enough of a drop, then I would not do coilovers at all on a daily-driver. I went AGX/Hyperco when I was tight on cash, and recently with a bit bigger budget went to CSK/Hyperco. I am not the least bit interested in the "fiddling" with my daily driver suspension, and like you would not know how to "dial it in" properly anyways. My suspension was, and is, more suspension than I am driver on the street or track anyways. I did not even adjust the CSK's damping, front nor rear, when I did go to the track in Ohio. Hell, I did not even check my tire pressure. I did not adjust my AGX's when I went to Savanah to a road-course, didn't change a thing from my street settings. Seemed just fine to my newb-ass-with-no-real-skills on the track both times.


A much better and proven choice than gambling on coilovers that were not designed for our chassis. As mentioned, I initially bought AGX's on a GB, and grabbed a set of Hypercoils on another GB. Best I could afford, and worked just fine, if a bit harsh.

I understand broke, been there, done that, ate the Ramen noodles.

Which is why it seems to me that throwing the dice on a $500 dollar purchase might not be the wisest move.


While I agree with your recommendations, it is about 3X the budget (which happens to be way too low of a budget for proper coilovers).

And I could only find a reference to "not monster truck stanced" which needs a bit of clarification. I can only *assume* that means really dumped to the OP. I dunno....

Shawn B - He says there that he bottomed out Ground Controls knock offs which means that he wants it MUCH lower than springs will allow.

CSK setup is $450 for inserts, $400 for GC kit. If you want camber adjust you add another $100 for some ebay plates or $250 for Cusco or $400 for GC. You CAN do a full koni insert custom setup for $1000, all depends on what inserts you choose and what camber plates you choose and if you are willing to cut down your stock struts to DIY.

Brent

Aha. I did not catch that, because I am not that suspension savvy.

So what about the weight difference and the weight distribution difference? Seems waaaaay off to me between the two chassis.

Honestly, valving won't be matched to the spring rates they have anyway, so he is just as good getting spring rates to match the car. The rear may be over damped, but that is better than being too spring heavy.

Brent

Here he states he got the car with it all the way down, then he installed some new GR2s and since he does not know what he is doing he did not grind down the top of the shock so the sleeves could fit over, SO his car is supper high like a monster truck. He does not mention an actual ride height or that he wants to go back down that low.



Nope, this setup is lower than he is now and will out perform what he is proposing to buy.



CSK and GC setup would be one of the better options, again out of his price range.

Mizzat, listen to those who know these cars, you do not want your car as low as when you got it, for the money you only really have one option that will work well and last a long time. Find some HyperCos, new or used, and some new AGXs.

If this option does not work for you save your money and buy something that does. In the mean time buy some stock springs for next to nothing, or grind down the top washer of the shock to get the coilovers to sit where you want them.

Doesn't matter. I serious doubt the Subaru-specific application has been exhaustively matched to the Subaru, either.

The physical components are the easy/cheap part. Anyone can contract with a Chinese factory and get a container full of cheaply-welded damper tubes with model-specific mounting ears. The hard part is making it work for the car. All of the magic in any coilover setup is thoughtful rates and properly matched dampening.

I'd like to hear who did the testing and R&D, and how they arrived at suitable damper forces and spring rates (they choose them for you, no choices, after all) for such a wide variety of makes and models.

(Wait, they didn't do all that?)