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2012-01-10 20:45:39
#181
ok now look at russels work compared to yours and see the difference
2012-01-10 20:48:42
#182
Originally Posted by tj5854
just to be clear. im not bashing your skills nor your creativity. but this must be done 100% correct.


yes i know your not bashing your attacking me. every members in here are just concern about my safety and others!!!
2012-01-10 20:54:19
#183
A key factor in welding is having the correct equiptment and knowing how to use it. you have neither. good luck
2012-01-10 20:57:33
#184
Originally Posted by morgans432
ok now look at russels work compared to yours and see the difference


yes, i see. he also add two plate on each side where its close to the joint. also like russell says earlier, he's not a full time fabricator but have certifications for MIG and Stick welding and have been welding for many years. compare to me i'm just a college student majoring on auto body which completed the basic welding and now on cars fixing dents. even though my welds aren't as great as russell im completely sure it tack together good.
2012-01-10 21:19:21
#185
Originally Posted by hmong_b13
yes, i see. he also add two plate on each side where its close to the joint. also like russell says earlier, he's not a full time fabricator but have certifications for MIG and Stick welding and have been welding for many years. compare to me i'm just a college student majoring on auto body which completed the basic welding and now on cars fixing dents. even though my welds aren't as great as russell im completely sure it tack together good.


need i say more good luck pal

just some things you leave to the pro's
2012-01-10 21:25:04
#186
Originally Posted by morgans432
need i say more good luck pal

just some things you leave to the pro's



as long as my teacher says its good. then im glad that i can use it!
2012-01-10 21:26:50
#187
I am a full-time fabricator. DO NOT USE THESE ON YOUR CAR. I don't mean to bum you out, but they will not be safe. I am all for fabbing up custom parts, but this should not be your first project by any means.

First off, it doesn't look like you removed the paint around the weld. The paint burning will contaminate your weld. There is no way in hell a flux core should be used for this. IMO flux core is for artwork type welding only. These should be TIG welded and braced by someone who knows what they are doing. I would only half trust a MIG with the proper shielding gas. You're trusting 2000 pounds (plus the forces of driving which will be way more) on a couple of improper welds.

Again, I'm not trying to bum you out, or bash you. You are a beginner, so start off on some beginner projects. Something that won't kill you and/or others if it fails. Quite honestly I don't trust the professors opinion either. I'm going to have to assume he doesn't really know what these are for, and the forces thrust upon them while driving.

To make these work from here (which I do not recommend) you need to:

1)Grind down your welds (like all the way off), remove the paint around the area, and re-weld them. See if you can use the MIG at school with inert gas.

2)Add 1/8" plate to both sides of the arm from the ball-joint to the mounting points. Fully weld the seams in 1-2" increments, moving from place to place so you don't over heat the arm and warp it.

3)Add another (min) 1/8" plate to the bottom, also full width. Weld in the same process as step 2.

At that point the arms should be strong enough that I would trust my life and the lives of others. Again, I recommend you TIG, but at least MIG them with solid core wire and the proper inert gas.

If you really think about it, would you rather over build the shit out of them and never worry about? OR would you rather worry about your life every time you drive and hit a bump?
2012-01-10 21:31:30
#188
Originally Posted by zero1dhd
I am a full-time fabricator. DO NOT USE THESE ON YOUR CAR. I don't mean to bum you out, but they will not be safe. I am all for fabbing up custom parts, but this should not be your first project by any means.

First off, it doesn't look like you removed the paint around the weld. The paint burning will contaminate your weld. There is no way in hell a flux core should be used for this. IMO flux core is for artwork type welding only. These should be TIG welded and braced by someone who knows what they are doing. I would only half trust a MIG with the proper shielding gas. You're trusting 2000 pounds (plus the forces of driving which will be way more) on a couple of improper welds.

Again, I'm not trying to bum you out, or bash you. You are a beginner, so start off on some beginner projects. Something that won't kill you and/or others if it fails. Quite honestly I don't trust the professors opinion either. I'm going to have to assume he doesn't really know what these are for, and the forces thrust upon them while driving.

To make these work from here (which I do not recommend) you need to:

1)Grind down your welds (like all the way off), remove the paint around the area, and re-weld them. See if you can use the MIG at school with inert gas.

2)Add 1/8" plate to both sides of the arm from the ball-joint to the mounting points. Fully weld the seams in 1-2" increments, moving from place to place so you don't over heat the arm and warp it.

3)Add another (min) 1/8" plate to the bottom, also full width. Weld in the same process as step 2.

At that point the arms should be strong enough that I would trust my life and the lives of others. Again, I recommend you TIG, but at least MIG them with solid core wire and the proper inert gas.

If you really think about it, would you rather over build the shit out of them and never worry about? OR would you rather worry about your life every time you drive and hit a bump?


yes i grind down the paint. if you want to see proof i can show you some pictures!!
2012-01-10 21:33:27
#189
Originally Posted by zero1dhd
I am a full-time fabricator. DO NOT USE THESE ON YOUR CAR.[/COLOR] I don't mean to bum you out, but they will not be safe. I am all for fabbing up custom parts, but this should not be your first project by any means.

First off, it doesn't look like you removed the paint around the weld. The paint burning will contaminate your weld. There is no way in hell a flux core should be used for this. IMO flux core is for artwork type welding only. These should be TIG welded and braced by someone who knows what they are doing. I would only half trust a MIG with the proper shielding gas. You're trusting 2000 pounds (plus the forces of driving which will be way more) on a couple of improper welds.

Again, I'm not trying to bum you out, or bash you. You are a beginner, so start off on some beginner projects. Something that won't kill you and/or others if it fails. Quite honestly I don't trust the professors opinion either. I'm going to have to assume he doesn't really know what these are for, and the forces thrust upon them while driving.

To make these work from here (which I do not recommend) you need to:

1)Grind down your welds (like all the way off), remove the paint around the area, and re-weld them. See if you can use the MIG at school with inert gas.

2)Add 1/8" plate to both sides of the arm from the ball-joint to the mounting points. Fully weld the seams in 1-2" increments, moving from place to place so you don't over heat the arm and warp it.

3)Add another (min) 1/8" plate to the bottom, also full width. Weld in the same process as step 2.

At that point the arms should be strong enough that I would trust my life and the lives of others. Again, I recommend you TIG, but at least MIG them with solid core wire and the proper inert gas.

If you really think about it, would you rather over build the shit out of them and never worry about? OR would you rather worry about your life every time you drive and hit a bump?


very well said
2012-01-10 21:34:50
#190
my teacher already told me that its tack and hold good together just that i need to weld some more braces on it!
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