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2011-10-09 18:02:37
#21
Originally Posted by ny5speed
I would say I was pushing them "harder than recommended" given the conditions and speed limit. I don't doubt their test methods one bit, I just think I'd have to get way beyond my "this is stupid" threshold to get in real trouble with these tires in the rain.

That said, I had been driving on 90% bald RS2s prior lol.

From the Grassroots article linked below, this quote is why I have trouble with "seat of the pants" evaluations. From any or all of us here on this forum.

Originally Posted by Grassroots
Testing requires the utmost in consistency, but also a constant push for higher limits.

Unfortunately, a "constant push for higher limits" on the street, in the rain, in the mountains, is foolhardy. I know you would not do so, neither would I.

Therefore, I am more impressed with, and pay more attention to documented back-to-back testing by a reputable source. A source like C&D or Grassroots.

Originally Posted by Barney'sB14
Check out this article, They talk about the performance of RT-615k's , Kumho XS's, Star Specs, and RS-3's. They tested them at a autocross event so this should give you a good idea how they'll perform. Top Tires: Grassroots Motorsports Magazine Articles

Excellent documentation and reasonably scientific testing.

Originally Posted by Jimithin7000
Rob for you, I would recommend the RE-11, not to toot my own horn but most of the guys I have hooked up with wheels and tires have nothing but good to say about them. I am talking about my recommendation not the specific tire I sold Tomas.

Randy (NY5Speed) got the XS tires because they are what I could get right before the convention, at the time the 205/50/15 Direzza was out of stock. That being said for a second choice I don't think they are much behind as far as what he was looking for.

Those RE11's were another high quality choice per Tire Racks testing when I bought the Dunlops.

I have no way in the world to actually test, or push to the absolute adhesion limits, any tire choices. I'm not a Mike Kojima kind of guy, with access to a test facility, test equipment, and a massive amount of personal expertise.

I appreciate and contribute to the forum discussions on "recommended tires" but to reiterate, I put more weight on documented testing by reputable sources.
2011-10-09 18:27:14
#22
I have tried te Azenis 205/50/15, Regular Direzza 205/50/15 and some cheap brand 195/50/15 Federal. Azenis lasted me about a year but that was a lot of drag abuse netted me a 2.0 60ft on my old G20 with a nonlsd trans. Direzza's don't have as much grip when cold but do ok when warmed up. Never autocrossed them just random street pulls. Federal tires have the most grip, I almost can't believe it. Only been on the car for 6months and need replacement soon though.
2011-10-09 20:41:59
#23
Originally Posted by P10FTW
some cheap brand 195/50/15 Federal.


Are they the 595 RS-Rs?
2011-10-09 20:56:00
#24
Actually they are Achilles ATR Sport tires. One thing I do remember about these tires was that they had a pretty soft sidewall which probably explains he smooth ride.
2011-10-10 01:28:06
#25
Originally Posted by Shawn

I have no way in the world to actually test, or push to the absolute adhesion limits, any tire choices.


Shawn, all ya need is some tarmac!!! Get to it and push that sexy B13 of yours.
2011-10-10 03:13:12
#26
rob, out of the choices you listed star specs hand down.

ive put maybe 600 miles on mine and i gotta say they are the best tires ive ever used.

grip like you wouldnt believe, you feel so confident in any situation with these tires.

of coarse your concerned with launch grip, but you and i both know at our age your not doing full out launches on the street like we did when we were 20 years old. so yes there is a bit of a compramise. that being you buy a set of drag radials and mount them on some bs rims for when some one gets a lil cocky at a meet. or skip all that, and tell them its a roll or nothing else, its not that serious.

buy them, youll thank me.

stratton.
2011-10-10 04:02:33
#27
Originally Posted by SE-Rican
I am looking for a basic 205 15 50 tire. These are my choices thus far.

Bridgestone Potenza RE-11

Dunlop Star Spec

Kuhmo Ecsta XS

Falken Azenis 615

So far I am leaning towards the Khumo tire but, I am in love with the look of the Azenis. Any info or experience with any of these tires would be great. I am looking to pull the trigger this coming week along with rims. So let here it gang!!


Not a bad choice in the bunch. FWIW I'm going with the Star Specs. Everything I've found from reading and talking to paople, they seem to be the most consistant if used on track, and have longer life. I've got a used set going on one of my cars this week.
2011-10-10 04:24:03
#28
The only tires I haven't tried in this thread are the Star Specs. SERican, depends on how you plan to drive. Not sure how much track time you plan on doing, road course or 1/4 mile. Since you have a garage queen rain won't be an issue so I'd shoot for either the RE-11s or the Star Specs for the street. Road racing, RS-3s or the XS if you are budget minded. NT-01s if you want a bad ass street/ track tire, money no object. 615Ks still don't like too much heat but grip decent anyway. The track guys in NASA run the NT-01s, the RS-3s & the Star Specs here in AZ. The XS stuck like crazy the hotter it got but wore down quick... too quick.
2011-10-13 14:10:33
#29
Well after reading around and talking to a few people I have decided on the Star Specs. I will be placing a order for rims and tires this week. One more piece of the puzzle completed!
2011-10-13 14:37:35
#30
Originally Posted by SE-Rican
Well after reading around and talking to a few people I have decided on the Star Specs. I will be placing a order for rims and tires this week. One more piece of the puzzle completed!


Winning !

Ur gonna love em.

Stratton.
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