Originally Posted by wes 
Originally Posted by Keo the CSK in the B15 with 650lbs springs gave a much better ride than the Nismo suspension for the B15 and the RM/agx on the b14 but that's with the big money 8611's. Can't wait to get this 8611/Miata set up on the B14, that's all a slow Ga16 needs to be fun!
The B15 yellows are not designed to handle that high of a spring rate though with their off the shelf valving. You can have them re-valved but at that point why not just go 8611.
My car was pretty fast around a track on B15 inserts and B15 rears with 350/300 and 450/400. It rode OK on the street as well but it was not near enough spring near the end when I was actually time trialing the car with NASA and pushing it hard on good race tires.
If I kept the car I would have gone GC advance design and somewhere in the 850 front 1000 rear range with the spec V rear beam.
I *think* we are seeing a large difference between folks that are serious track-hounds vs. folks that have street cars that occasionally see a track.
Originally Posted by Shawn Originally Posted by Re-spect revived again, anyone get a set?
A set of what? I have my Will-Built CSK's on my Classic with my Hypercoils.
Spec V Yellow fronts, B13 Red rears.
AWESOME ride. The comfort is downright amazing. All the performance, no downsides. I cannot imagine a better non-adjustable, direct replacement, DD performance suspension that is also track-worthy. The struts being adjustable, but nothing else to fiddle with, which is exactly how I wanted it. Bolt it on, set it, and forget it. Perfection.
That bolded part is important to me. "Track-worthy" for my once a year track-attack. With my very limited skills and sticky street-tires. And no "messin-with" my suspension. In Ohio I drove to the track, did not adjust squat, didn't even check my tire-pressure or oil (checked before I left LA), drove around the track as fast as I was able, and drove back to the hotel. Big smile on my face.
I'm quite sure my suspension is currently waaaaay more capable than I am as a driver.
(Hyperco, CSK, Koni bumps, Superpro caster bushings, Progress rear sway on medium, Progress lower control arm brace, OEM front sway, every chassis-brace known to mankind, fully foamed chassis, yada, yada, yada....).
Originally Posted by Re-spect Originally Posted by coach I went with the 8610-1436 RACE and 400/335 Swift Springs and will know soon how I like it. My car does more street duty than track duty. HOwever, the reason I went with the 8610 Race is that they were hardly anything more than the 8611 or the maxima/b15 units. I really think it will be a great all around setup and finally have everything in to install them as my custom tubes arrived yesterday.
Brent
Well, here's my impression of the 8610's( housings built by veilside) that i drove to the convention, that was paired with the b15 Koni yellows in the rear not inserts on my b14, along with tein plates in the front and Shigspeed pillowball mounts in the rear. All i can say is, Awsome. Highway driving to the convention was phenomenal( cant speak for the ride back home)LOL.
I went with the basic off the shelf setup GC sells for our B13/14, Veilside and I spoke many times before i pulled the trigger on this setup and I would never go for a spring based setup again. Guys, you have to try this with a coilover setup, paired with the appropriate spring rate according to your driving style. All you hyperco guys, a change might be in the making,LOL....
I need a ride in your vehicle.
And wouldn't the progressive-rate Hypercoils still be more comfortable on a street-focused vehicle? I have never seen progressive rate springs for a coil-over set-up (?).
We are definitely discussing two different focuses for our vehicles. Whether we are leaning towards or focused on a track set-up, or leaning towards a street set-up that will not embarrass itself on a track.
I believe that Jay (@eggman) and I are in the exact same category. And while Jay could probably properly set-up and dial-in a coil-over system, that is way beyond what I even have a desire to mess with.
The consensus that I see amongst these posts is that buying really good Koni dampers will get you what you want and need in either case.
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