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2011-05-01 20:27:07
#1
CSK spring choices.What would you do?
I have had Hyperco and roadmagnets on a B13 before,but both with agxs.I wonder how much better the suspension will be on a CSK setup and was thinking of upgrading.
If you had to choose one between a set of Hyperco gen2 and a set of Roadmagnets in front of you to use with Custom Shortened Konis,which do you choose,and why??.
....for a B13 Daily, weekend autocrosser,etc.

I know the differences on paper,but looking for personal experiences or other input,Thanks
2011-05-01 20:55:07
#2
For the DD the Hyperco's since they are progressive. Not saying they are bad on the track but I've heard that some drivers prefer the linear nature of the RMs while racing because it is more predictable. However the progressive nature of the Hypercos make the a bit cushier for a DD. I cannot speak with experience as I have never had the RMs on my car, but this is what I've seen posted on the board. I've been running the Hyperco/CSK for 5 years now and love them for DD duties. I have yet to take them on the track.
2011-05-01 22:01:30
#3
If you are doing autocross for fun, then Hypercoils, if you are a bit more serious about it then Road Magnets. I had RM's on my B14 for a couple of years and it started to drive me crazy as a daily after a while, especially on these shitty WI roads. I loved my RM's at autocross though!

Same old story as always, Hypercoils will be more forgiving on the street, Road Magnets give better feedback in a competition environment. Neither choice would be a bad one.
2011-05-01 23:54:37
#4
Originally Posted by Isfahan
For the DD the Hyperco's since they are progressive. Not saying they are bad on the track but I've heard that some drivers prefer the linear nature of the RMs while racing because it is more predictable. However the progressive nature of the Hypercos make the a bit cushier for a DD. I cannot speak with experience as I have never had the RMs on my car, but this is what I've seen posted on the board. I've been running the Hyperco/CSK for 5 years now and love them for DD duties. I have yet to take them on the track.

Originally Posted by xCONWRATHx
If you are doing autocross for fun, then Hypercoils, if you are a bit more serious about it then Road Magnets. I had RM's on my B14 for a couple of years and it started to drive me crazy as a daily after a while, especially on these shitty WI roads. I loved my RM's at autocross though!

Same old story as always, Hypercoils will be more forgiving on the street, Road Magnets give better feedback in a competition environment. Neither choice would be a bad one.

Agreed with both gentlemen.

Which means in your case Eggman, I would suggest the Hypercoils on your DD, weekend autocrosser. That means 5 days a week, you are dealing with public streets and roads. 2 days a week, or less, you are autocrossing. I'd lean toward the more comfortable set-up, rather than the most precise under track conditions.
2011-05-02 00:56:49
#5
Thanks guys,you are all saying what I was thinking.
I see the RM2 sit 1/4 inch lower in the front than Hypercos,too.I like that,so that is a factor,too.
As for autocrossing its for fun,but I would plan to get more serious about it,and obviously want any advantage I can get.
It seeems to me that the roadmagnets feel slightly more connected,and more precise at quick turns than the hypercos...at least with agxs anyway.
2011-05-02 15:36:34
#6
I like the RM better all around hands down. I hate to be a hyper-hater I'm really not but I only get to use them as dd and I still don't like the softer progressive wind. My wife liked them best though.
2011-06-01 03:22:53
#7
Update.
Well, my flamesuit is on ....but before you go freaking out,I will have a dedicated track car eventually so keep in mind this is on my DD.
I was looking for a compromise between looks and performance.
It will be driven on widy backroads and on trips across town,etc.It may see an autocross every now and then,but never any real track time.



I cut one "dead"coil off the front hyperco gen2s after having them on the car for 150 miles(2 days)
The CSK hyperco ride is exactly what I want,but the front looks too high compared to the RM I took off.
Credit should be given to xxTokesxx,and/or whoever he was consulting with about doing this to his car.
I must have gone back and looked at his pics before and after 100 times before I cut my springs.
My car sits a hair over 1/4" lower than it did before the springs were cut.(just about the same height as RM2 that came off)
Looking at it,it looks the same as it did with the RM so it is not slammed.

Bonus to this setup is now I dont need a spring compressor to remove the spring from the strut in the front,but it still seats right and not loose so it can't spin.
This will be handy for me since my fronts are "reds" so they are not externally adjustable.It should make it a little less stressful if I want to adjust them.
I have the fronts set now at about halfway and rears a little less.
I took the car in for an alignment today and had to go through a really bad construction zone .All I can say is WOW.
The good...
No rubbing.
No bouncing.
No noises.
No jarring.
No bottomming out .
No hitting the bumpstops.
The bad(for me)...My GF boobs dont bounce as much...lol
In fact she noticed a difference right away without me even telling here what I did.I just told her"I fixed it and made it softer" haha
Honestly I was aiming for bumps and stuff to hit to try and I couldnt upset this suspension(within reason,of course)Just as smooth as can be.
Then I threw her around some tight corners and switchbacks.Still handles nice and flat when pushed,but handles mid-turn bumps and dips way better.
I honestly felt like the AGX s got a bad rap until I tried this CSK setup.
Previously I had Hyperco/agx and RM/AGX.
I believe I have found the perfect compromise for me.

Perfect ride height,Koni shortened struts, and progressive rate Hypercos with one coil cut off FTW!!!
No pics yet though.
Last edited by eggman on 2011-06-01 at 03-25-54.
2011-06-01 12:58:05
#8
^sounds good man..nothing better than a custom suspension set-up lol..though i personally hate the way the road magnets "lower" the car
2011-06-01 14:34:24
#9
Originally Posted by Benito
I like the RM better all around hands down.
I know I'm late to the party, but this is my feeling as well. I've said it before. Unless you have hemorrhoids, go with the RMs.
2011-06-01 16:07:17
#10
I think it was Jerryeads on the old board that first did this trick.
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