Thread: SO, THIS looks very wrong.

Or did the customer order specv inserts for the rear without realizing they don't work with lowering springs? Can't blame OEM if that's the case...

The fronts and rears were both ordered with Spec V inserts. You CAN use them in the rear, they just cannot be shortened, you'd need spacers. But SINCE OEM offers Custom Shortened Konis on their website, I thought they knew how to build correctly.

Also, I'm looking through the guide to order these on their site, and there are new settings. You can now order a B13 Spec V insert both front and rear, which was not the case when I ordered these. There was only one Spec V insert, so I am confused as to what specifically is used now.

Lastly, I have yet to hear anything from OEM except what I have posted in the thread regarding the ONE email I got about 2 weeks ago. If the rears can be made correctly with uncut housings, spacers and the insert I've paid for, then I am open to that suggestion. BUT, like I have said, I've yet to hear anything from OEM about remedying this situation.

For now, I am running AGX's all around, with the Road Magnets. The CSKs are sitting around.

NOT with lowering springs...according to Foltz...see post 31.

I think in this case Steve Foltz (for whatever reason at the time) did not consider using spacers on Spec V inserts in the rear. I think he would agree using spacers would make them work. Maybe we could run the idea across him?

To this day, I am still confused about what inserts go where and how to even construct these. Shawn B, would it be too much to ask you to have the suspension thread elaborate on this? This setup is so highly praised yet few are done correctly. Not knocking on anyone, but I've seen several threads with these issues. It would just be nice to clear all of this up so this doesn't happen. Hopefully OEM corrects this.

Dave

Is it Shawn B's fault for your incorrectly assembled shocks? No, not even close. He collects data that is spread about the forum and compiles it in one thread to help us folk make more informed decisions.

A. Was is specified when you ordered your shocks for what type of spring / coilover was going to be used? If it was specidfied that they were to be used with springs, then it would be OEMs fault 100%. If not specified, then it is a little of both parties.

B. Even though Shawn B posts the info, it does not make him responsible for what happens with that info, not saying you think it is, just saying. With that the user HAS to do their own research to make sure the setup they want will work.

C. The over used term "custom" refers to what has to take place in order for that thing to happen. In this case it is not an off the shelf part that you bolt to your car that the manufacture says works, it is custom made to YOUR specs, if B15 yellow rears were not listed as an option, then why did you request them? Sounds pretty "custom", they may have thought you knew what you were doing or were misinformed themselves.

Are you 100% at fault, i dont think so. Is OEM 100% at fault, i dont think so. It seems there was a breakdown in communication or a lack of knowledge on both sides. YOU need to contact OEM directly by phone, not PM or email or post, and find out where the lack of communication came from. Sorry this happened and i hope you straighten it out but the answer, in this case, is not easy.

Sorry i had to say this but someone did.

I do think 99% of the info can be found in the Suspension thread or by following links in the thread itself. I'm pretty sure Shawn's job is mostly done.
It's just a lot of info to wrap your head around and it's confusing for many people. Those are the ropes. *shrug*

Dave, as Ben and Squirlz have pointed out, I do not make the Suspension Thread "do anything." I am no suspension expert by any stretch of the imagination.

I thought perhaps I was the only one who could not figure out CSK's to save my ass. I posted plenty of information, I know for a fact that Steve Foltz, Mike Kojima, Wes and the experts I quote know what they are doing. However, just because I posted it or quoted somebody, does not always mean I even fully understand the conversation.


Maybe I am getting confused. I do not *think* anyone thinks it is my fault.

You are 100% correct on what I do with the Suspension Thread. I'm a librarian with editorial powers.


Good question.


Thank you.


You have analyzed and broken down this current awkward scenario perfectly.

Shawn B

Squirlz, Ben, and Shawn B, I fully agree with you and I fully respect Shawn for what he has contributed. It is our and the manufacturer's responsibility to make sure it is done correctly. Shawn, I do disagree with you in that you do make the suspension thread "do something". It is a vital asset to us and I empathize with you. You have worked very hard and I respect that. I just thought that the experts could tune in, and some already have, and compile knowledge on this. In time, this would clear up A LOT.

is the far left rear strut actually using a rear strut housing?